Conversation: 295-014
Prev:  295-013 Next: 295-015Start Date: 16-Nov-1971 3:31 PM
End Date: 16-Nov-1971 5:04 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Peterson, Peter G.; Shultz, George P.; Ehrlichman, John D.; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Kissinger, Henry A.; Bull, Stephen B.; Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:19:25
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:48:43
NARA Description:
On November 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Peter G. Peterson, George P. Shultz, John D. Ehrlichman, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Henry A. Kissinger, and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:31 pm to 5:04 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 295-014 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 295-14 Date: November 16, 1971 Time: 3:31 pm - 5:04 pm Location: Executive Office Building The President met with Peter G. Peterson, George P. Shultz and John D. Ehrlichman. H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman Secretary of Commerce -Maurice H. Stans Haldeman entered at 3:32 pm. -Activities -Tenure in office -Peterson -Possible role -Henry A. Kissinger -Jeb S. Magruder -Compared with Stans -State Department's activities -William P. Rogers -Employees -Peter M. Flanigan -John N. Mitchell -Shultz and Ehrlichman -James T. Lynn -Stans's views -Peterson -Possible roles 8 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 295-14 (cont.) -National Bureau of Standards [NBS] -Atomic Energy Commission [AEC] -Advocacy -Stans's tenure in office -Budget review sessions -Herbert C. Hoover -Research and development -Government reorganization plan -Gross National Product [GNP] statistics -Errors Cabinet -John B. Connally -Shultz -Peterson's possible role -Speeches -College campuses -Congress -International economics -Work of various US departments and agencies Flanigan -Possible role with administration International economy -State Department -David M. Kennedy -Russell B. Long -State Department -Stans's views -Kissinger -US trade with Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union -People’s Republic of China [PRC] -Soviet Summit -Vietnam War -East Bloc satellites compared with the Soviet Union -Co-Ordinating Committee on Export Controls [COCOM] Stans -Schedule -Tenure in office 9 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 295-14 (cont.) -Role ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 39s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 ***************************************************************** Commerce Department -Lynn -Harold B. Scott -Statistics -Peterson's role -Business Council ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 [National Security] [Duration: 57s ] AUSTRALIA END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 ***************************************************************** International monetary situation -Connally -Arthur F. Burns 10 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 295-14 (cont.) -Price of gold -Convertibility -Peterson's conversation with Pierre-Paul Schweitzer -Italy -Labor’s reaction -Edward R.G. Heath -Georges J.R. Pompidou -Charles A.J.M. De Gaulle -Price of gold -Convertibility -Politics -Views of Henry S. Reuss and William Proxmire -Views of Edward M. Kennedy, Edmund S. Muskie And Hubert H. Humphrey -Franklin D. Roosevelt -Price of gold -US trade surplus with Europe -Agriculture -William D. Eberle's negotiations -National defense -Convertibility -International Monetary Fund [IMF] -Connally’s view -Muskie, Humphrey, Reuss and Proxmire -Price of gold -Exchange rate Commerce Department -Peterson -Relations with other departments -Connally -State Department -Rogers -John R. Stevenson -Conversation with Shultz -Leaks Leaks -Rogers -Melvin R. Laird -Notes of telephone calls to Rogers 11 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 295-14 (cont.) Commerce Department -Unknown man -Staff -Peterson's possible role -Popular opinion of business -Advocacy -Management Water Quality Bill -Muskie -Passage by Senate -House committee's forthcoming hearings -Commerce Department -Credibility Peterson left at 4:20 pm. The President's possible speech to American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations [AFL-CIO] -Charles W. Colson's views -The President's possible reception -George Meany -Rhetoric -Office of the Presidency -Shultz's previous conversation with Colson -Interests -Range -Relations with rank and file -Construction unions -Wage and price freeze -Possible themes -National security -Employment -Labor program -Dignity of work -Research and development -Progress -Environment -Ehrlichman and John C. Whitaker -Timing 12 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 295-14 (cont.) -Colson’s view -Meany -Democrats -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson and Humphrey -Value -Reception -Value -Press -Public Support for the President -Unions -Blacks -Jews -Israel -B'nai Brith -Organized labor -National Association for the Advancement of Colored People [NAACP], B'nai Brith and AFL-CIO -Whitney M. Young, Sr. funeral -Working people -Blacks The President's possible speech to AFL-CIO -Reception -Phase II -Meany -Foreign policy -James R. Hoffa -Possible clemency -Possible announcement Henry A. Kissinger entered at 4:30 pm. The President's possible speech to AFL-CIO -Hoffa -Possible clemency -Presidential demeanor -Content -Support for the President -Cambodia 13 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 295-14 (cont.) -Marches -Sacrifices -Prosperity in 1968 -Causes -Preparation -Colson -Timing -Content -James D. Hodgson -Mine safety -Politics -Support for the President -Cambodia -National economy -Phase II -Foreign policy -Meany -PRC -Soviet Union -Cuba -Colson -Ehrlichman Appointments -Shultz's forthcoming conversations -Council of Economic Advisors [CEA] -Federal Reserve Board [FRB] The President's schedule -Quadriad Shultz's schedule -Kissinger and Connally -Peterson and Burns -International monetary situation International monetary situation -The President's schedule -Possible meetings with European Heads of State -Connally's views -Japan 14 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 295-14 (cont.) -Paul W. McCracken's Views -Convertibility -International trade -Connally -Offset -West Germany -Analogy to Japan -Okinawa -Shultz's schedule -Connally and Burns -Convertibility -Burns's views -Surcharges -Japan -Textile Agreement -Yen -Devaluation -Possible settlement -Timing -Manlio Brosio's letter to Kissinger -West Germany -Convertibility -Political ramifications -Italy -West Germany -Connally -1972 election -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] -Trips to PRC, Soviet Union -Japan, Western Europe National economy -Balance of trade -Imports -Exports -Dock strike -Shift -1971 compared to 1970 -Economic expansion -Gross National Product [GNP] 15 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 295-14 (cont.) The President's schedule -Quadriad -Burns National economy -Money supply -Shultz's conversations -Milton Friedman -Burns -Erratic behavior -Friedman's letters to Burns -1960 CEA -Friedman -Possible role -McCracken -Burns -Friedman -Possible effect -Conservatives -Phase II National economy -Phase II -Friedman's possible role -Herbert Stein's possible role -Burns Japan ambassadorship -Hoyt Ammidon -Wife -Walter N. Thayer -Armin H. Meyer -Julie Nixon Eisenhower -William S. Renchard -Peter M. Flanigan -Frederic V. Malek -Chemical Bank -Wife, Alice M. (Fleming) Renchard -Father [Robert V. Fleming] 16 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 295-14 (cont.) -Meyer's wife [Alice Meyer] -Women -Possible appointment Shultz and Ehrlichman left at 4:50 pm. The President's possible speech to AFL-CIO -Ehrlichman's views -Meany -Popular opinion -Phase II -Reception -Colson's views -Content -Phase II -Colson's views Laird -Previous conversation with Haldeman -Leaks -Joint Chiefs of Staff [JCS] -Associated Press [AP] story from Saigon -Compared to New York Times story -Press -Troop withdrawal figures Vietnam -Negotiations -The President's forthcoming troop withdrawal announcement -Response Haldeman left at 4:54 pm. -Le Duc Tho -US proposal -Possible publicity -Timing -Rogers -Possible North Vietnamese proposal -PRC and Soviet Union -PRC 17 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 295-14 (cont.) -Recent speech International economy -Textiles -Connally -Cabinet -Peterson -Secretary of Commerce position -Flanigan -George R.S. Baring, the Earl of Cromer's memorandum to Kissinger -Connally -Call from Kissinger, November 16, 1971 -Connally -Kissinger, Shultz and Connally -Peterson -The President's schedule -Forthcoming meetings with Europeans -Negotiations -Convertibility -Forthcoming report Vietnam -Negotiations -Prisoners of war [POWs] -Strategy -Possible military action -Possible announcement -Forthcoming trip to PRC -William J. Porter -Paris -Publicity Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:54 pm. The President's schedule Bull left at an unknown time before 5:04 pm. Vietnam -Negotiations -US proposal 18 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 295-14 (cont.) -Nguyen Van Thieu -Possible resignation -Le Duc Tho -The President’s actions -Reaction -Announcement -Timing -North Vietnamese expectations -Thieu -US bargaining position -Timing The President's schedule -Kissinger's conversation with the Earl of Cromer, November 15, 1971 -Willy Brandt -Georges J.R. Pompidou Vietnam -Negotiations -POWs -Deadline -Possible bombing -Possible effect -PRC trip -Kissinger’s possible message to PRC PRC -The President's forthcoming trip -Message to Vernon A. Walters, November 16, 1971 -Timing -Soviet Union -United Nations [UN] speech, November 15, 1971 -State Department -Soviet Union -Press reaction -George H. W. Bush's forthcoming statement in New York -Rhetoric -Television International economy -Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with Burns 19 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 295-14 (cont.) -Convertibility -Connally Kissinger left at 5:04 pm.