Conversation: 300-023
Prev: 300-022 Next: 300-024Start Date: 9-Nov-1971 9:45 AM
End Date: 9-Nov-1971 11:00 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob");Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:39:26
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:50:00
NARA Description:
On November 9, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:45 am to 11:00 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 300-023 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 300-23
Date: November 9, 1971
Time: 9:45 am - 11:00 am
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
The President's forthcoming speeches in New York and Chicago, November 9, 1971
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Richard A. Moore
-Television coverage
-Cameras
-Demonstrators
-Possible actions
-Jerry Rubin
Demonstrators
-Attitude
-Activities
-White House vigil
-Regulation
-Court ruling
-1968 campaign
-Chicago
-Loud speakers
-Democrats
-Organization
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 300-23 (cont.)
-The President's schedule
-Colleges
-Compared to high schools
The President's forthcoming speeches in New York and Chicago
-Make-up
The President’s schedule
-W. Clement Stone
Earl L. Butz
-John N. Mitchell
The President's schedule
-State dinners
-Harry L. Sears
-John Sears
-Rose Mary Woods
-Joseph M. Margiotta
-[William McMahon]
-Emilio Garrastazu Medici
Appointments
-Butz
-Background
-Indiana
-Secretary of Commerce
-Peter G. Peterson
-Ethnic and religious considerations
-Possible Catholic
Mitchell's attendance at dinner
-Telephone call
-Technical problem
-Robert P. Griffin
-Tape
The President's schedule
-George P. Shultz
National economy
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 300-23 (cont.)
-Pay Board
-Shultz's view
-Compared to Charles W. Colson
-Labor’s position vis-a-vis the Administration’s policies
-Compared to World War II
-Labor's possible action
-Colson
-Frank E. Fitzsimmons's view
-Construction workers
-George Meany
-Fitzsimmons
-Meany
-Shultz's efforts
-James D. Hodgson
-Meany
-Investment tax credit legislation
-Rate
-Wilbur D. Mills's conversation with Clark MacGregor, November 8,
1971
-Senate
-Business
-Pay Board
-Labor
-Shultz’s view
-Donald H. Rumsfeld’s activities
-Public relations
-Radio
-Rumsfeld, Shultz and Colson
-Cooperation
The President's schedule
-Departure from the White House
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 300-23 (cont.)
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Robert J. Dole
-Press story
-Kenneth W. Clawson
-Colson
-Views
-Contacts
-Washington Post
-Franklyn C. (“Lyn”) Nofziger
-Colson's contacts with Clawson
-William E. Timmons
-Schedule
-Farm belt
-Traveling
-Exposure
-John A. Scali
-Colson
-Mitchell
Clawson
-Mitchell
-Richard G. Kleindienst
-Dole
Law and order issue
-Mitchell
-News summary
-1972 election
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Conv. No. 300-23 (cont.)
-Robert H. Finch’s statement
-Herbert G. Klein
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Press coverage
-White House staff role
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-John B. Connally
-News summary
-The President’s schedule
-Unknown trip
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Speeches
-Mitchell’s
-Compared to Vice President Agnew’s
-Speechwriting
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 300-23 (cont.)
-Henry A. Kissinger
White House staff
-Speechwriters
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-Unknown man from Philadelphia
-Priest [Rev. John J. McLaughlin]
-John K. Andrews, Jr.
-William L. Safire
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Price
-Humor
The President's forthcoming speeches in New York and Chicago, 11/9
-Length
-Price
-Television coverage
White House staff
-Speechwriters
-Length of speeches
-Administration needs
-Structure
-Timing
-Price
-Haldeman’s efforts
-1972 campaign
-Republican National Committee [RNC]
-Speechwriters
-The President's possible conversation with Price
-Suggested remarks for the President
-The President's use
-Examples
-Welcoming comments for Indira Gandhi
-Price Board
-The President's use
-Ideas
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 300-23 (cont.)
-Facts
-Anecdotes
-Forthcoming speech in New York
Tricia Nixon Cox talked with the President between 10:27 am and 10:28 am.
[Conversation No. 300-23A]
[See Conversation No. 14-1; one item has been withdrawn from the conversation]
[End of telephone conversation]
The President talked with an unknown person [Kissinger?] at an unknown time between 10:28
am and 10:29 am.
[Conversation No. 300-23B]
The President's schedule
[End of telephone conversation]
White House staff
-Speechwriters
-Efforts
-The President's use
-Preparation
-Ideas, facts, statistics, anecdotes
Stephen B. Bull [?] entered at an unknown time after 10:28 am.
The President's schedule
Bull [?]left at an unknown time before 10:29 am.
Kleindienst
-Role in administration
-John D. Ehrlichman
-Mitchell's views
-Confirmation
-Possible fight
-Kleindienst’s background
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 300-23 (cont.)
-Harvard Law School
Kissinger entered at 10:29 am.
Vietnam
-Troop withdrawal rate
-Melvin R. Laird's comments
-The President's possible response
-The President’s forthcoming announcement
-[Arnold] Eric Sevareid’s report of November 8, 1971
-Laird's recommendations
-Sevareid
-The President’s previous announcements
-The President's schedule
-Laird
Korea
-Possible troop withdrawal
-Defense Department’s recommendations
-White House
-State Department
-Laird
Milton Viorst
-Conversation with Peter G. Peterson
-State Department role in the President's People's Republic of China [PRC]
initiative
-Briefing with unknown person
-Evidence
-Action since March 1969
PRC
-Initiative
-Kissinger’s role
The President's schedule
-Brazilian foreign visitors
-Camp David
-Return dinners
-The President’s possible attendance
-Protocol
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 300-23 (cont.)
-Agnew
Message to PRC, November 9, 1971
Kissinger's meeting with PRC delegates to the United Nations [UN]
-Possible communications in Ottawa, Canada
-Individuals
-Personal Secretary of Chou En-Lai
-Others
The President's schedule
-Possible trip to Latin America
-Rogers
-Possible stops
-Jamaica, Panama
-Call to Rogers
-Phase II, State of the Union, budget
-Jamaica
-Panama
-Darien Gap
-Possible demonstrations
-Leadership
-Treaty
-Possible flight from Miami
-Travel time
-Compared to Europe
-Possible stops
-Jamaica
-Rogers
-Panama
-The President’s forthcoming meeting with Willy Brandt
-State of the Union address
Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with Arthur K. Watson
-Georges J.R. Pompidou
The President's schedule
-Pompidou
-Brandt
-Edward R.G. Heath
-Latin American trip
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 300-23 (cont.)
-Emilio Garrastazu Medici
-Procedures
-Brazilian visitors
-Haldeman
-Kissinger
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Emil Mosbacher, Jr. and Ambassador Joao A. Castro
-Camp David
-Return dinners
-Haldeman's forthcoming conversation with Rogers
-Willy Brandt
-Rogers’s knowledge
-Pompidou
-Foreign trips
-The President’s schedule
-Latin America
-Panama, Jamaica
-Dinners
Haldeman left at 10:45 am.
India
-State Department policy
-Possible effect
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INDIA-PAKISTAN
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Pakistan
-Military situation
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 300-23 (cont.)
-PRC
-East Pakistan
-India’s possible intention
-West Bengal
-PRC
-State Department policy
-Effect on US Senators
-Arms cut-off
-PRC
-Rogers
-Briefing paper
-Economic aid
-The President's possible meetings with State Department
Bureaucracy
-State Department
-1972 election
-Aftermath
-Possible action
-Joseph J. Sisco and Marshall Green
-Middle East policy
-Schedules
-Initiatives
-Israel
Vietnam
-David K.E. Bruce
-Bombing
-North Vietnam
-Level
-Compared to Lyndon B. Johnson
-US troop withdrawal
-Infiltration
-Cambodia
-Laos
-Number of sorties
-Decline
-Cornell study
-Professor [Forename unknown] Kardina [sp?]
-Press coverage
-Ho Chi Minh Trail
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 300-23 (cont.)
-Purpose
-US troop withdrawal
-The President's opponents
-Argument
-Refugees
-Analogy to World War II
-Defense of Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] and Poland
-Concentration camp
Laird
-The President's schedule
-Meeting with the President
-Troop withdrawal rate
-Rogers
Vietnam
-Troop withdrawals
-The President's role
-Laird
-Negotiations
-Forthcoming meeting of November 20, 1971
-Laird's knowledge
Rogers
-Handling of job
-Compared to Laird
-Troop withdrawals
-The President's PRC initiative
The President's forthcoming State of the World message
-1971
-Laos
-The President's trip to PRC
-Vietnam
-Troop withdrawals
The President’s schedule
-Trip to Latin America
-State Department
-Jamaica
-Jamaica
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Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 300-23 (cont.)
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JAMAICA
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-Panama
-Argentina
-Brazil
-Unknown meeting
The President's PRC initiative
-State Department role
-Green
-March 1969
-Trade
-Elliot L. Richardson
-The President's meeting with Charles E. (“Chip”) Bohlen and Llewellyn E.
(“Tommy”) Thompson, Jr. in June 1969
-Romania
-Warsaw talks
-Messages
-Kissinger's possible meeting with newsmen
-Timing
-Forthcoming Summit
-Stewart J.O. Alsop
-1972 election
-Laird and Rogers
-Possible television appearance
-State Department role
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 300-23 (cont.)
-Rogers
-Briefing books for Kissinger
-Kissinger's staff
-Unknown person’s comment
State Department briefing books
-The President’s knowledge of since 1953
The President's foreign policy
-Democrats
-Vietnam negotiations
-Possible administration action
The President's forthcoming trip to PRC
-Press list
-Timing of announcement
-Ziegler
-Joseph C. Kraft
-Calls to Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Calls to Kissinger
-Kissinger's response
Kissinger left at 11:00 am.