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Start Date: 3-Nov-1971 12:20 PM

End Date: 3-Nov-1971 1:16 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ziegler, Ronald L.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:12:27

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 04:08:48

301a.mp3

301b.mp3

301c.mp3

NARA Description:

On November 3, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:20 pm to 1:16 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 301-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 301-13

Date: November 3, 1971
Time: 12:20 pm - 1:16 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
                                             42

                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)




The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.

     Henry A. Kissinger

The President talked with H. R. Haldeman at an unknown time between 12:20 pm and 12:22 pm.

[Conversation No. 301-13A]

     Haldeman's schedule
          -Ziegler and Kissinger

     Kissinger's schedule
          -(Jacques) Maurice Couve de Murville

[End of telephone conversation]

     Ziegler's briefings

The President talked with Charles W. Colson between 12:22 pm and 12:23 pm.

[Conversation No. 301-13B]

[See Conversation No. 13-99]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Supreme Court
          -American Bar Association [ABA] endorsement of Lewis F. Powell and William H.
              Rehnquist
              -Margin

     Foreign aid program
          -Continuing resolution
                -Deadline
                -Press
                      -Understanding of issue
                -Statements by John A. Hannah, the Secretary of State [William P. Rogers] and
                      Ziegler
                -Allen J. Ellender
                                             43

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 301-13 (cont.)


     New York Times and Washington Post
         -White House treatment
               -James J. Kilpatrick

The President talked with Walter H. Annenberg between 12:25 pm and 12:31 pm.

[Conversation No. 301-13C]

[See Conversation No. 13-100; one item has been withdrawn from the conversation]

[End of telephone conversation]

Haldeman entered at 12:25 pm.

     Frank L. Rizzo

     The President's schedule
          -The President's conversation with Kissinger
               -Kissinger’s schedule
                      -John B. Oakes
                      -New York Times editorial board
                           -Abraham M. Rosenthal
                           -Daniel Schwarz
                           -Possible meetings
                                -Timing
                           -Pentagon Papers
                      -Time magazine
                      -Simile
                           -Contact with People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                      -New York Times editorial board
                      -Oakes

     William McMahon
          -Comments to the President
              -New York Times

     Time magazine
          -Relations with White House

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:31 pm.
                                              44

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 301-13 (cont.)


     Matches

     Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:50 pm.

     Kissinger's schedule
          -Oakes and Max Frankel
          -Washington Star event

     White House relations with press
          -New York Times and Washington Post
          -Television networks editorial boards
                -Kissinger's schedule
                      -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
                      -National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC]
                      -American Broadcasting Corporation [ABC]
                      -John Chancellor, Howard K. Smith and Dan Rather
          -New York Times, Time and Washington Post
                -Newsweek
          -Times
          -Kissinger's schedule
                -Editorial boards
                      -Networks
                            -Ziegler
                      -United Press International [UPI] and Associated Press [AP]
                      -Scripps-Howard papers
                      -Knight papers
                      -Possible program
                      -Herbert G. Klein's possible efforts
                      -Location
                            -New York
                            -White House
                      -New York Times
                      -Scali
                      -AP and UPI
          -New York Times, Washington Post and Washington Star
          -Scali's views
                -Staff members' schedules
                      -John D. Ehrlichman, Kissinger and Ziegler
                            -Meetings with Bureau chiefs compared to reporters
                                    45

                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 10/06)
                                                       Conv. No. 301-13 (cont.)


-Robert B. Semple, Jr.
-Los Angeles Times
      -Donald Irwin
      -Editorial Board
      -The President's schedule
            -Semple and Irwin
      -J. Edward Murray [?]
      -Irwin
            -Influence
                  -Compared to Semple
-Kissinger’s schedule
      -David Kraslow
-Press "freeze"
      -Reasons
-White House staff members' schedules
      -Henry Hubbard
            -Scali
-Jerrold L. Schecter of Time
      -Influence
            -Compared to Hugh S. Sidey
      -Objectivity
      -Forthcoming Moscow summit
            -The President's policy
      -Kissinger's schedule
-New York Times
      -Kissinger's schedule
            -Semple
            -Editorial Board
                  -James B. (“Scotty”) Reston
                  -Posture
                  -Influence
            -Semple
                  -Frankel
            -Frankel
                  -Pentagon Papers
                        -NBC
            -Semple
-Time
      -Theodore H. (“Teddy”) White
            -The President's forthcoming trip to PRC
                  -Conversation with Ziegler
                                             46

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 301-13 (cont.)


          -The President's forthcoming trip to PRC
               -Newsweek
               -White
               -Schecter
                     -The President’ forthcoming trip to the Union Soviet Socialist Republics
                            [USSR]
          -Television networks
               -Kissinger's schedule
                     -Editorial boards
                     -Rather and Harry Reasoner
                     -Editorial boards
                           -White House correspondents
                           -John F. Kennedy’s practice
                           -Smith, Walter L. Cronkite and Chancellor
                           -Influence
                           -[Arnold] Eric Sevareid
                           -Timing
          -Kissinger's schedule
               -Wire services
               -New York Times Editorial Board
                     -Pentagon Papers
                     -Semple

Kissinger entered at 12:50 pm.

     Kissinger's meeting with Couve de Murville
          -The President’s comments about Couve
          -Couve’s comments about the President
          -Couve's meeting with Mao Tse-tung
                -Chou En-lai

     Nikita S. Khrushchev
          -Treatment by US press
                -Nikolai A. Bulganin
          -John F. Dulles
                -Views
                     -Conversation with the President
          -Accomplishments
                -Bureaucracy
                     -Communist Party
                                       47

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 301-13 (cont.)


Kissinger's meeting with Couve

The President's schedule
     -Georges J.R. Pompidou
          -Guiana
     -Willy Brandt
          -Florida
                 -Compared to San Clemente
                 -Reception
                       -Nobel Peace Prize
                 -State dinner
     -Edward R.G. Heath
          -Bermuda
          -Kissinger's forthcoming meeting with Earl of Cromer [George R.S. Baring]
     -Emilio Colombo
          -Telephone conversation with the President

The President's previous conversation with Annenberg
     -Philadelphia mayoral election
     -The President's forthcoming visit to USSR
           -Notification
                 -Kissinger's conversation with Cromer
                       -Timing
                            -The President’s announcement
                 -Pompidou
                 -Heath

Heath
     -Possible note from the President
          -Great Britain's entry into Common Market
     -Possible meeting

White House relations with the press
     -Kissinger's schedule
          -Scali
          -Television networks
                -Trip to PRC
                      -The President
                      -Reception
                      -Chou En-lai
          -New York
                            48

         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                    Tape Subject Log
                      (rev. 10/06)
                                                   Conv. No. 301-13 (cont.)


     -Editorial boards
           -Television networks
                 -Rogers
     -Timing
           -United Nations [UN] vote on Taiwan, Republic of China
           -Foreign aid vote
                 -Continuing resolution
           -Vietnam
                 -Troop withdrawal
           -Cincinnati
     -Purpose of visit
           -Influence
                 -Compared to meeting with Time, Washington Post, New York
                      Times
     -Editorial boards
           -AP and UPI
     -Business group
-Clare Boothe Luce
-New York Times and Time
     -Pentagon Papers
-Semple
     -Ziegler
-Los Angeles Times
     -Kraslow
           -Views
                 -USSR initiative
-Oakes
-Irwin
-Semple and Kraslow
-Washington Post
-Washington Star
     -George Sherman
     -Mary McGrory
     -Sherman
           -State Department
-Networks
-Business group
-Klein and Scali
-New York
     -Editorial boards
           -Invitation to Kissinger
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 301-13 (cont.)


                      -Duration of meetings
                      -Timing
                           -Forthcoming trip to PRC
                           -Forthcoming announcement
                 -Luce

     Luce
            -Possible role with administration
                 -Confirmation

     Kissinger’s schedule
          -Ziegler

Kissinger left at 1:11 pm.

     White House relations with the press
          -Washington Post
              -Maxine Cheshire
                    -Tricia Nixon Cox

     [Unintelligible]

            -Kissinger's schedule
                 -Editorial boards
                       -Ziegler’s role
                       -Klein's schedule
                             -Robert H. Finch
                                   -South American trip
                       -Timing
                 -Kraslow
                 -Semple
                 -Oakes
                 -Washington Post
                       -“Freeze”
                 -Adam Clymer of New York Times
                 -Scripps-Howard papers
                 -Knight papers
                 -Hearst papers
                 -Newhouse papers
                       -Don Bacon
                       -Editorials
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 301-13 (cont.)


                           -Portland Oregonian
               -Scripps-Howard papers
                      -Ted Knap
               -Bacon
                      -Appearance
                      -Age
                      -Editorials
          -Press attitude
               -UN vote on Taiwan
               -Senate vote on foreign aid program
          -Kissinger's schedule
               -Pauline Frederick
               -Value
               -Joseph C. Kraft
               -William F. Buckley, Jr. and Stewart J.O. Alsop
               -State Department
               -Backgrounders

Haldeman and Ziegler left at 1:16 pm.