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Start Date: 13-Jan-1972 4:15 PM

End Date: 13-Jan-1972 5:00 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Safire, William L.[Unknown person(s)]Nixon, Richard M. (President)Safire, William L.[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:32:12

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:15:21

314a.mp3

314b.mp3

NARA Description:

On January 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, William L. Safire, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:15 pm to 5:00 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 314-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 314-13

Date: January 18, 1972
Time: 4:15 pm - 5:00 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with William L. Safire.

     Draft for Vietnam speech of January 25, 1972
           -Foreign policy
           -[National Security Council [NSC]]
                 -Henry A. Kissinger
                       -Personality
                 -Drafts
                       -Construction
                       -Theme
                       -State of the World
           -Negotiations
                 -Kissinger
                 -May 31, 1971
                       -Troop withdrawal deadline
                             -Prisoners of war [POWs], ceasefire
                 -August 1971
                       -Nine month deadline
                 -October 1971
                 -June 1971
                 -Kissinger’s draft
           -Phrasing
                 -Last paragraph
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               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                          Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. 10/06)
                                                     Conv. No. 314-13 (cont.)


           -Possible audience
           -Negotiations
                 -Peace offer
     -Opening paragraph
           -Troop withdrawal deadline
                 -POWs
           -The President’s draft
     -The President’s pledge
     -Negotiations
           -Kissinger
           -William P. Rogers
           -Ellsworth F. Bunker
           -David K.E. Bruce
           -William J. Porter
           -Henry Cabot Lodge
           -Bruce
           -Bunker
           -Rogers
           -Kissinger
-Page seven
     -Public concern over the peace issue
           -The President’s memorandum
           -Peace plan
-Deadline
     -Troop withdrawal
-Ceasefire
     -October 1971 proposals
-Deadline
     -Ceasefire, POWs
-Proposals
     -Kissinger
           -Deadline
                 -Troop withdrawal, return of POWs
                 -Ceasefire
     -The President’s proposal
           -Nguyen Van Thieu
                 -Possible resignation
-Reference to North Vietnamese
     -State Department
-Page eight
     -Congress
                                            24

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 314-13 (cont.)


               -Kissinger
          -Page eleven
               -Nine month proposal

[The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 4:15 pm and 5:00
pm.]

[Conversation No. 314-13A]

     Schedule

[End of telephone conversation]

     Speech draft
          -Negotiations
                -Secrecy
                      -Deadlock
          -Thieu's offer to resign
          -Free elections
                -Communists
          -Exchange of POWs
          -New South Vietnamese elections
          -Agreement on principles
                -Kissinger’s draft
                      -Troop withdrawal, return of POWs
                      -Paris negotiations
                -Safire’s possible talk with Kissinger
          -US relations with South Vietnam
                -Public opinion

     Vietnam
          -Possible military action
               -The President’s 1966 proposal
          -Mining Haiphong Harbor
          -Bombing railroads, dykes
          -Blockade
               -World Wars I and II
               -Civil War
                     -Robert E. Lee

     Speech draft
                                            25

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 314-13 (cont.)


     -Cuts
     -Public trust
           -Support
     -Ending of wars
     -Tone
     -Negotiation record
           -Troop withdrawal

Kissinger
     -Safire’s meeting with the President
           -Call from the President
     -References to in speech
           -Le Duc Tho
     -Work with Safire on draft
     -The President’s schedule
           -State of the Union speech
     -Record of negotiations
           -Publication of proposals
     -Speech draft
           -Thieu
           -Submission to Rogers
     -Possible briefing of Thieu

Final draft
      -Submission to the President
            -Date
                  -Dinner
            -Study by the President
                  -Florida
                  -Meeting with Safire and Kissinger
                  -Trip to the People’s Republic of China [PRC]

Forthcoming Vietnam speech
     -Resolutions by Senators in Congress
          -John Sherman Cooper, Frank F. Church,, Michael J. Mansfield amendments
          -Impact on negotiating position
     -Possible public reaction
          -Secret negotiations
          -Thieu
          -POWs
     -Secret negotiations
                                          26

                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                             Conv. No. 314-13 (cont.)


          -Kissinger’s draft
          -Vietnamization
               -Effectiveness
     -Withdrawals
          -Peace in Vietnam, Southeast Asia

Final draft
      -Rogers
            -Kissinger
      -Thieu
      -Rogers
            -References to Kissinger
            -Consultation
                 -Timing
                       -Kissinger and Safire
                 -Thieu, Bunker
                 -Winston Lord
                 -Draft preparation

Cabinets
     -Conflict
          -Kissinger, Rogers
     -Cordell Hull, Harry Hopkins
     -Abraham Lincoln
     -Winston S. Churchill
     -Lord Melbourne, Benjamin Disraeli
          -Rogers and Kissinger
               -Opinions
                     -State Department
          -Rogers
               -Qualities
                     -Tactical skills
                     -Public relations
               -Deficiencies
          -Kissinger
               -Self-confidence, knowledge
                     -Compared with Rogers

Kissinger
     -Visit by Safire
           -Draft
                                              27

                              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 314-13 (cont.)


                          -Congress
                          -Thieu
                          -Rogers

     Rogers-Kissinger conflict
         -The President’s relationships with others
         -Melbourne and Disraeli
               -Lack of conflict

Safire left at 5:00 pm.