Nixon, Haldeman & Connally on Vietnam War and State of the Union Address

1:47:18He did a very good job.
1:47:21We talked on the way over, and he raised his hand.
1:47:29He said, you know, I've been thinking about this, and one thing Tommy said to me a while back when we were talking about it,
1:47:46He said, you know, I'm not going to be here much longer.
1:47:48I probably won't be here until the end of the year.
1:47:53And he said, I think it's essential for Connie to stay here.
1:47:57And if this functioning here makes any difference in his attitude on that, then maybe there's some way I can give you some help in that direction too.
1:48:09And I said, well, obviously, I didn't give him any discussion.
1:48:14He said, obviously, that's
1:48:16He did a good job.
1:48:20He did push for trying to define how it was going to work and all that.
1:48:28Conley laid it out exactly the way the two of them, their minds basically leaned on the understanding of how it worked.
1:48:37I talked to Conley afterwards for quite a while, and his view is that it definitely should be
1:48:46I said, there's no problem on that.
1:48:49I said, you didn't want to force anybody on it at the whole point here.
1:48:52It wasn't a matter of just being comfortable with the guy, but that he didn't convince that this was the right guy for the job.
1:48:59And I said, there's no problem on a personal basis or any other basis in changing it now.
1:49:05Because Peter is...
1:49:23It's all on that kind of a basis, and if you don't want it, it'd be very easy to move it back anyways, finding, you know, if you're interested in that, go ahead with this kind of design, and you'll be able to change this, put this through, and all that.
1:49:40But, if you want to do it, you need to be ready to do it.
1:49:44And, um, which I think is true, I haven't talked to these since they've been built, and then, um, but, um,
1:49:52The only way it can be handled here is that there's got to be a strongman over there running the door, whether they're Gallant or anybody else like that.
1:50:20Then,
1:50:21He wouldn't be able to wheel the other departments, and I haven't been able to do it, or the president hasn't been able to do it all of a sudden.
1:50:28And we have a problem.
1:50:29Steve Flanagan is known by everybody around here to be close to the president, perhaps, or to have a position where he was leading things around.
1:50:37Up to now, he can go right on.
1:50:40And I have no personal problem with Steve Flanagan.
1:50:46And I feel very strong.
1:50:47We've got to have a strong one.
1:50:48Not a weak one.
1:50:51I've got to have the council, because if we folded up the council, and then tried to do what we're talking about, I'd be lost, because as far as I can, as the Secretary of Treasury, we deal with other departments, except as an equal.
1:51:02He's always been talking about this, and right, and come up with the same one, and then, you know, we've got to see what gets away, and it's better.
1:51:15So he made that point, and he said that Lyman, today, had said,
1:51:19You can be sure I'm not interested in handling all the moving stuff in the treasury or doing anything here, because I guarantee you I'm not going to be subject to the treasury next year.
1:51:29I'm not going to be sitting in this office next year or something like that.
1:51:36But that's pretty swell, and it's pretty sure.
1:51:37But he said he was making it as a point of assuring me.
1:51:41He was making it a point of planning.
1:51:42He wanted the work done elsewhere.
1:51:44He didn't want to try and haul a lot of stuff in the treasury.
1:51:46He didn't believe the whole office in the treasury was
1:51:49But you will, as long as you want to do exercises, extra responsibility, you've got to take on as far as trade, and that kind of what is concerned.
1:51:57Anyway, to all the things he makes it possible to do, he reopens the case idea of busting open the State Department, after he got back from Russia, and now he's going to take it.
1:52:15Reorganisering and all that.
1:52:16He makes an interesting point.
1:52:17He says if you get many more leagues, if that kind of thing is one thing, you're going to have to, in order to blunt the effectiveness of those people, so that people will turn the other way and say, well, it's just those sons of bitches that are going to be organized.
1:52:31Maybe it was a device.
1:52:33Anyway, from a cognitive point of view, it should be fine.
1:52:38He's happy with it.
1:52:39He wants to kind of work with it.
1:53:14It's not a right of will.
1:53:14Except for Austin.
1:53:16It's not Bill.
1:53:18It's Bill Hickey's brother.
1:53:19It's another Hickey.
1:53:20It was the brother of Bill.
1:53:23It's not about the brother.
1:53:28I wouldn't understand it.
1:53:35Well, I think...
1:53:35It's in good shape this week.
1:53:46Get it in.
1:53:47And then I think he'll know.
1:53:48Settle all the concerns.
1:53:49He'll know what to do.
1:53:53That's it.
1:54:16My book would call me.
1:54:17I went through the whole thing.
1:54:18I didn't save it.
1:54:18I called you.
1:54:19I called you.
1:54:19Oh, did you?
1:54:20No.
1:54:20You heard me.
1:54:45Just to get through to you, I want to read it to you.
1:54:52Very simplistic.
1:54:53I would ask for this television to present to the American people and the leaders of North Vietnam a plan for peace which can bring to an end the longest war of this century.
1:55:14The offer that I now show to the public on behalf of the government of the United States and the government of South Vietnam is full of generous support.
1:55:24It is a plan to end the war now.
1:55:26It includes an offer to withdraw all American forces from the six months of agreement.
1:55:30These are supplements of the speed and return of all the voters in the war at their homes.
1:55:34I was briefly with U.S. partners today, three years ago.
1:55:36We met with the 5,000 American fighters in Vietnam who believed we could kill the nation.
1:55:43There had to be another way out in case the other side refused to negotiate.
1:55:51That path was called the end position.
1:56:13This meant training and equipment in the South Asian region to protect themselves, and withdrawing American citizens from the United States.
1:56:19The path of the organization has been successful.
1:56:21A few years ago, I announced that the American portion of Vietnam had begun at 69,000.
1:56:26That means almost one-half of the American population has drawn to Vietnam in the past three years.
1:56:32In terms of American lives, the loss of 300 million is reduced by over 95%, now less than that.
1:56:37The path of the organization has been a long, hard journey.
1:56:43Thank you very much.
1:57:12and see whether it would be possible to end the public deadline for the Department of Education in Paris.
1:57:17After concentrating on the Secretary of State Rogers, Mark Baskin, and Saigon, our chief negotiator in Paris, with the full knowledge of the proof and the truth, I sent out my sister to Paris, and my personal representative on August 4, 1969, to begin the safety of the institution.
1:57:34Since that time, it has been a small time.
1:58:02private discussions about both sides of our plan for the negotiations.
1:58:07I hope that they will speak in negotiations in the end of the war.
1:58:11The only way to keep this secret is not to tell anybody about it.
1:58:14For 30 months, I never said a word about it.
1:58:16I mentioned to you prior to that that I would see the negotiations and press conferences.
1:58:20You would always say that you were pursuing every possible channel in our search engines.
1:58:26It was never this sudden and relief that we could turn around and see the negotiations.
1:58:32Thank you.
1:58:59The secret record will show just the opposite of the truth.
1:59:50A Mayfield personage was accepted about eight months ago.
1:59:52At one of the secret meetings in Paris, the United States offered specifically to agree to a deadline for the withdrawal of all American forces in exchange for the release of all persons before the ceasefire.
2:00:03At the next private meeting, June 26th, an argument was made to reject the right proposal to set a deadline for the withdrawal of the Chinese police before the ceasefire.
2:00:12They proposed that all money from the client, which consisted of the jewel patrol, was developed in South Vietnam.
2:00:18Five days later, on July 1st, the enemy publicly presented a different package for forces to be at Conn, 7 o'clock in the night.
2:00:25Someone said, in the dark of the evening, 9 o'clock, 7 o'clock in the night.
2:00:29That afforded a dilemma.
2:00:31What package did he respond to?
2:00:32It seemed to depend on the public plans.
2:00:35July 12th was way back in the evening when we put that question in front of you directly.
2:00:39They said that we should deal with their running for the secret plan, because they've covered all of it in China, on the way to Congress of the United States of America.
2:00:48That's what we did.
2:00:50We went beyond being the son of a bunch of public plans that we were not supposed to be.
2:00:56On July 1, 6, we told the North Vietnamese that I was prepared to ask the Congress to provide funds for a major economic and public program, a program for the withdrawal of the Chinese, not Vietnam, and sharing with Europe.
2:01:09On August 6, the United States presented another proposal, which would take into account the decisions of both sides.
2:01:14This plan, too, could have been spread through the U.S.
2:01:17It offered to take control of the U.S. and allied forces nine months after that.
2:01:22We made several voiding proposals that would give the economy a very chance to compete with our economy now.
2:01:28We have matched some of the U.S. exact foreign relations, not only North Vietnam, but also North Vietnam, public and private.
2:01:35On September 13, the North Vietnamese rejected this plan.
2:01:37They were taken to the system field for a result of this plan.
2:01:41What was the result of our plan?
2:01:44For months, the North Vietnamese and the U.S. were not responding.
2:01:49Their side of the problem remains unresolved.
2:03:22They proposed their own 90-pound plan, which consisted of drill control and governance on Vietnam.
2:03:26Five days later, on July 1st, the enemy publicly presented a different package of proposals to deal with Kong's 70-pound plan, and so on and so forth.
2:03:34On the dark of the evening, it was 90-point C of the plan, and that afforded a dilemma.
2:03:40Would the package really respond to the secret penance of the public plan?
2:03:44On July 12th, it swayed back to the Indian government, which was to put that question in front of Vietnam directly.
2:03:51They said that we should deal with their money for the secret plan, because they've covered all over the channel, all over Bay of Corn, Southern Point, Wilson, and the rest of Vietnam.
2:04:00That's what we did.
2:04:01We went beyond being the son of the public plan that we had for the secret plan.
2:04:07July 1st, 2016, I was prepared to ask Congress to provide funds for a major economic and public program, a program for the public for all of China, not the economic sharing program.
2:04:17On August 16th, we presented another proposal, which was taken into account by the citizens of both sides.
2:04:24This plan, too, provided us with ready-to-go duties.
2:04:27It offered to take control of the U.S. and allied forces nine months after the war.
2:04:32It contained several political principles, and given the Congress the very chance to
2:05:34Let me get to a final example of what is really going on in Washington.
2:05:37I decided in October we should make another attempt for a new government.
2:05:41On October 11th, I sent a private communication to Melody and me, who could imagine the wealth of the group negotiations going on, and urged me to remember first what we've done in this year, and special advisory that I told her some other way to put the position of the man on.
2:05:57On October 25th, the Vietnamese agreed to meet and suggest a new government.
2:06:01Just reading.
2:06:02We are being asked publicly to respond to the polls that we have.
2:06:31and in some respects were set up months ago.
2:06:32They were being asked publicly to set a terminal date for hours ago, when they had already offered them a credit.
2:06:39One of the most complicated things about this conflict was that we ignored the deeper challenge, and allowed the price to have to be a little bit higher.
2:06:46That is why I have expected the best report of the presenter at the time to help me with this little recession comparison story.
2:06:53You're publishing in full text, in full design.
2:06:55You can prove beyond the shadow of a doubt which side of the caveat
2:07:31This Sunday, the election was reorganized to run by an independent party, representing all political forces in South Vietnam, including Vietnam.
2:07:38We have heard much about how no election could be very long for President Trump.
2:07:44President Chu's full knowledge of the situation is present in the peace of his land.
2:07:48We make this offer as part of the peace plan.
2:07:51One month before the election, President Chu provided a call to the Senate.
2:07:56The caretaker administration held a chamber in the South Vietnam Senate.
2:08:30The only thing this plan was not to do was to try to overthrow our ally, which is the United States, and our additional duty to the enemy wants peace.
2:09:27Unsteadiness and our withdrawal of troops from America has proven its resolution to end its development into war.
2:09:33Our readiness to act is still an unsolvable issue.
2:09:35America has proven its desire to be involved in building a friendly peace through our new China.
2:09:39Yes, I don't know if the whole president cannot always act on his own, but he always has a point to make.
2:09:45Some of our citizens are our customers, and whatever our government says must be false, and whatever our enemies say must be true.
2:09:54The record of the deal that I encourage you to make is true.
2:10:27I think that's a good television speech, because that's all it is.
2:10:31It's got a lot of facts that people won't understand, but I think you need them.
2:10:36I mean, you know, they're listening there.
2:10:39I think you need...
2:10:40It doesn't matter if they understand and remember it or anything else.
2:10:45It's the body of evidence on which your case rests.
2:10:52You need it there.
2:10:53I was delighted to get the bonus spot.
2:10:55I think you're right, though.
2:10:56I think...
2:10:57You can't get it very much.
2:10:59You've got the stiletto.
2:11:00It's sort of cut in half.
2:11:03Yeah, and that's the way it has to be done.
2:11:06It's the temptation of it.
2:11:11I think this is understandable.
2:11:19Yep.
2:11:20It's a bit too hopeless of a view.
2:11:24Nope.
2:11:56You know, all these shits are running around saying if you don't do that, it's off the ground.
2:12:00It's off the ground.
2:12:24If they do, the point is, I've got to say what I believe.
2:13:01Especially if you want that, you're pretty happy.
2:13:04It will be fine.
2:13:05The offer of you is that bad.
2:13:07I was going to say, when I was a carer, I was a carer.
2:13:23I was a carer.
2:13:29Yes, but I don't think too much.
2:13:34You have to have men, but Bill's done a superb job of getting the history of your story, and without saying history over and over.
2:13:48We are the best men.
2:14:26Just out of the question now, we've got to find ways to work around these different problems.
2:14:56You set that back for some time.
2:15:00It's damn brief.
2:15:03It's a short speed tune.
2:15:08It's too damn long.
2:15:15It's a VOW now.
2:15:17I don't know what they're going to say.
2:15:29I don't think they'll see that as a stumbling block.
2:15:39I think they'll see it as a positive thing.
2:16:57Undercuts anybody saying you didn't cover enough in the shade.
2:17:00Now our...
2:17:00I'm pretty sure she's on the app.
2:17:02I'm pretty sure she's on the app.
2:17:38No, I think we've got a pretty good conclusion on this.
2:19:02As we look ahead over the coming decade, that's where we're going to change our economic certainty to the economic reality of our life in America.
2:19:11Surveying the certainty of rapid change, we can be like a homewriter calling the service, or we can sit high and settle for matters of change directly in our heart of the future.
2:19:23The secret of matters of change today grows to reach back to old, proven principles, to a background of imagination, intelligence, and the realities of the world.
2:19:31We believe in independence, self-reliance, and creating value for the planet.
2:19:36Thank you.
2:19:57We believe in full and equal opportunity for all Americans in protecting the liberty of our citizens.
2:20:01We believe in the families and peace of the Indian community and peace of the nation.
2:20:06We believe in compassion for those in need.
2:20:08We believe in a system of law that is in order on a basis that is in the basis of the general and true society.
2:20:14We believe that a person should walk the way he works for, and that when he can, he should work for the right of the general.
2:20:20We believe in the capacity of people to make their own decisions in their own lives and their own communities.
2:20:54Nothing mattered more than the quality of our lives, the ways we treat one another, and our capacity to live respectfully together, as a unified society, with a full and gathering regard for the rights of others, and the hate of others.
2:21:08As we recover from the turmoil and violence of recent years, as we learn once again to speak for one another instead of shouting for one another, we regain our capacity.
2:21:19As this customer here has stated, I am not the front-runner, but I am the reporter.
2:21:24But even more important than the program is what we are as a nation, what we do as a nation, to ourselves and to the world.
2:21:30We are, for example, one of the most famous statues in the world, the statue of the Japanese people, the people of Hawaii, the people of the United States.
2:21:39The statue is more than a landmark, it is a symbol, a symbol of what America has meant to the world.
2:21:44Reminds us that what America must demand is not its wealth, not its power, but its spirit and purpose.
2:21:51A land of the strongest liberty and honor that is held on the hand of wealth and business in search of a better, a more, and above all, a freer life.
2:22:01The world's hopes for it have been brought from every corner of the world, and become a part of the hope that we hold on to.
2:22:11We are here in America celebrating the anniversary of the American Revolution.
2:22:17There are some who say that the old spirit of substance is dead.
2:22:20We no longer have the strength to carry on the idea of faith in our common purposes.
2:22:24That spirit never dies.
2:22:26Those who say this do not know America.
2:22:28We have been under it, but we haven't undergone it.
2:22:30Some doubts and some questions.
2:22:33These are the other side of our growing sensitivity to the resistance of one against the other.
2:22:39If we were indifferent to the unshakenness of our society, or complacent of our institution, or blind to the good and the bad, then we would have lost our way.
2:22:49The fact that we have these incentives and our ideals are still strong.
2:22:56Indeed, they remind us that what is best about America is its compassion.
2:23:02They remind us that in the final analysis of American analysis, America is great.
2:23:09not because it is strong, not because it is rich, but because this is a good country.
2:23:15Let us reject the narrow visions of those who tell us that we are evil because we are not yet free, that we are corrupt because we are not yet poor and pure, that all the sweat and toil and sacrifice that we've gone through in the building of America were to burn off because the building is not yet done.
2:23:31Let us see that the path we have traveled is wide and open for all of us, and that its direction is toward a better nation,
2:24:07If we succeed in this task, then we'll be president after all.
2:24:15Not only for doing what is right, but for doing it in the right way, by rising both parties and groups to serve the nation.
2:24:28If we fail, then more than any one of us Americans will lose it.
2:24:37That is why my call upon the Congress today is for the highest basic shame, so that in the years to come, Americans will look back and say, because of this good and intense pressure from the political world, and achieve such great good in America's future.
2:26:11This, yeah, that part of it, the first part of it, should be in there.
2:26:15That part ought to be on the front of that.
2:26:17And it won't be, because they won't put it on the back of the head.
2:26:22You can see that's where it's at.
2:26:26You sure can.
2:26:27It ought to be on the front of the head.
2:26:30So when I hold the cradle, and I'm going forward, there you go again.
2:26:35I don't want you to try to do three or four.
2:26:39Hello?
2:26:45Ja.
2:27:09Hello.
2:27:11Hi John, how are you?
2:27:20Okay.
2:27:22Okay.
2:27:30Okay.
2:27:39The major European nations, Canada, I always think of Canada.
2:27:44The major European nations, Canada and Japan.
2:27:48Wait, wait, focus now, please.
2:29:13Good.
2:29:13Good.
2:29:15Many thanks.
2:29:15Bye.
2:29:45I've got your copy on there.
2:30:05I've got two of them.
2:30:10On my copy on page 13.
2:30:50We've got bottom page 13.
2:30:52Insert the word for the major European nations, and insert the word Canada.
2:31:00Okay, now...
2:31:41Page 21.
2:31:42Under the leadership of the Secretary of State, we are carefully reviewing the passage.
2:31:56I have one other sentence.
2:32:00Those two you can take.
2:32:14Oh, yeah.
2:32:45Ray, I'm trying to think.
2:33:05I had one small thought on the first page of the...
2:33:15I don't want to use the, when I say the magistrate at the moment, to use it in another way to describe it.
2:33:23I can say I will never forget that moment when I can use it as something other than the magistrate.
2:33:32That's right, I used it before, that's the reason.
2:33:36It doesn't quite fit that.
2:33:38It's really, it's a great moment in my life.
2:33:45Or should we just say, I'll never forget that moment?
2:33:52Is that a clue?
2:33:52Great, but I know I guessed it first, but I just don't feel comfortable with it.
2:34:04That's it.
2:34:05I'm trying to understand how to answer that.
2:34:08Good.
2:34:08Okay, you can just call March over there.
2:34:11I had a couple of others I had a couple of others I had a couple of others I had a couple of others I had a couple of others
2:34:40And the other one here is the only other thing that we have, which is really important, and the first thing we got was to insert the word Canada.
2:34:49You know, we talk about Europe.
2:34:53You have to put in Canada.
2:34:56I've covered Canada, and I've covered the changes in the word, rather than what Connolly already has there.
2:35:02But this one, I think this is the one we want, so I shall never forget that one.
2:35:08All right, thank you very much.
2:35:10You ever do it again before?
2:35:39They make suggestions that it's even worse than if you were to die.
2:35:41That's why I'm going to see what it is.
2:35:42I don't know what it is, actually.
2:35:43It's very unusual.
2:35:43They aren't very good.
2:35:44But also, it's not that I'm not afraid.
2:35:45It's just that it's like, yeah, I'm pretty hard to sit down.
2:35:46And there's a lot of different things.
2:35:47Whether it's
2:36:34Go back to...
2:37:08I think you're right about Hector.
2:37:09I think Hector was right about his suggestion about not trying to make this any other than a formal...
2:37:14Formal?
2:37:14No, yeah.
2:37:15The point is that
2:37:35You don't have to make your case.
2:37:38I shouldn't have to.
2:37:40They've all got to understand that by God, this is the order of ways.
2:37:45And we're all going to play ball.
2:37:46And that is why we shouldn't apologize for slacking, probably, because of this and that.
2:37:54It's all very difficult, including what you're doing.
2:37:59This is the way it's going to be now.
2:38:04Exactly where we are.
2:38:18Now let's see.
2:38:34He said I'm a good player.
2:38:40Yeah.
2:38:40I'm a good player, you know.
2:38:47Well, it is to me.
2:38:48Sure.
2:39:15Retail sales, the story about that.
2:39:19But I asked you about the Chinese staff right now.
2:39:25I feel very strong about it.
2:39:28I don't think I'm going to have to remark about it under the trip.
2:39:38One of the reasons for her success was that she just didn't have the help of the people around her.
2:39:42And I just feel very, very strongly that I don't want her to have to go to a service or another service.
2:39:46I don't want to cut all of that.
2:39:47I don't want to have to send a letter to agents and so forth.
2:39:50I just want to do what I can do.
2:39:51And I trust her to be there.
2:40:06We are.
2:40:07And we're in good shape on that.
2:40:10The problem is, we've just got to hold it that way.
2:40:15There's going to be all the temptations of death, by police, by case.
2:40:30We have made, I must say,
2:40:35Looking at our own answers to our own questions.
2:40:37We can satisfy our own goals and our own needs.
2:40:38We can work together.
2:40:39What I'd like to do is to help communicate rather than just not do this on this occasion.
2:40:42I mean, if I hadn't decided what I wanted to do, I wouldn't have chosen to do it.
2:40:45Maybe we should take over the other person as well.
2:42:35That's why I started it.
2:42:36You ought to get out and make your story.
2:42:41You ought to call.
2:42:43One person did more than put me on tape.
2:42:46I knew it was somewhere, and then he tried to throw me out of the thing.
2:42:54I didn't think he was going to have a man.
2:42:56I didn't think so.
2:42:59I was going to have a man, but I don't know now.
2:44:01Did you see the lady's own journal?
2:44:13Yes, sir.
2:45:04Wait just a minute, sir.
2:45:05Here's one that is worth it, since you haven't finished it yet.
2:45:20On page six grows, if you would add, that many in both parties.
2:45:23See where it's not on page eight?
2:45:27It's on page six.
2:46:44Frankly, I wouldn't want him to do this, but whatever.
2:47:14He obviously is the fellow who made me survive.
2:47:23I told you not to want that.
2:47:24I told Connelly that.
2:47:25I didn't say that for the camera.
2:47:27I said you have very high plans for Peter in the long haul.
2:47:32And that you feel that this year...
2:47:36I think cotton used to be the most valuable time you could spend, and it's kind of the most great strength of feeders that the planet doesn't have.
2:47:45Some of it, and some of it may be left off, but some of it already has.
2:47:49It's a lot less abrasive than it used to be.
2:47:53It's a lot of modesty in cotton feeding.
2:47:55You guys thought that was about right.
2:48:32I've seen a couple of pictures over there.
2:48:36There's a picture of her and then a Chinese guy with some design of it or something.
2:48:46But not in color?
2:48:49No, not in color.
2:53:06Do you really feel that that sapphire thing, do you think it's got to be on?
2:53:13Yeah, I do.
2:53:13I'm sure that that is correct, simple, or it's got to be.
2:53:19But also, it tells a story.
2:53:20It has to be a story, I'm sure.
2:53:22But that's the thing I was concerned about with sapphire, is that you might set up the tendency to...
2:53:34Overbuild it.
2:53:36It doesn't need the content.
2:53:37We struck the hell out of them all.
2:53:39That's one that doesn't need it.
2:53:42You don't need to say this is the most serious negotiation industry that does it all by itself.
2:53:56It's like the China announcement.
2:54:01You get more for it.
2:54:03A lot of people say, I have to have her.
2:54:11This is probably a great chance to say something you cannot say.
2:54:13A real problem, I suppose, is that people will say, well, that's why I try to answer it.
2:54:24Why do you have to see her?
2:54:25Because it's like as if you were after something.
2:54:31I was wondering about that, too.
2:54:33I wondered about it before we had it, but I think I would recommend it, just to sort of say why we didn't do this.
2:54:37Warning, of course, would usually end in a secret.
2:54:41And it makes the point that we were doing public things, too.
2:54:45And it should stand to see by making the contrast that we made the offers in secret, building good faith in secret, and then they shot us down in the open.
2:54:55And you said all along, which is the other point, that we are pursuing every channel, and you have said...
2:55:01I think the fact that Secret Box has been more or less accepted and what they haven't known is the content of it.
2:55:32And the drama of the fact that it was Henry Kissinger flying over at Paris, that's going to stir up a lot.
2:55:36How did Henry Kissinger get to Paris 12 times without anybody knowing?
2:55:42It will also make him think something else is going on, which is not bad.
2:55:50It will also probably put a death watch, a wire shirt, on Henry Kissinger.
2:56:00Yeah.
2:56:00Yeah.
2:56:04People say, well, why did Kissinger do it?
2:56:06I don't understand.
2:56:07The Secretary of State did it by embarrassing secrecy.
2:56:12Our country, Kissinger, had to send a president.
2:56:13Had to send a president.
2:56:15They had to represent a president.
2:56:17And also he had to represent something out of the state, which is called the Fed, too.
2:56:27Well, guys, the thing is that the ones that attack us cannot just do this anymore.
2:56:31You know?
2:57:01That's a good point.
2:57:03You need that.
2:57:04You got it.
2:57:05You got it.
2:57:08You got it.
2:57:09You got it.
2:57:11You got it.
2:57:12You got it.
2:57:14You got it.
2:57:15You got it.
2:57:57I just like to have a few little nuggets to be given.
2:58:28I think the economy is going to increase.
2:58:35Big standing.
2:58:38The whole level of staff is bringing up great big things.
2:58:42We're going to have to kick off the year on the budget, on the domestic policy initiatives, the foreign policy, general status of where we stand, the legislative program, and the whole thing.
2:58:56So it's going to bring them all in on that.
2:58:59Inside, before you go up to hell.
2:58:59Good.
2:59:00Good.
2:59:00Good idea.
2:59:00It's the same.
2:59:01It's a whole lot more than good.
2:59:02We're talking about a whole lot more than good.
3:01:48What do you want to eat?
3:02:18Bring the chopper in as soon as you figure out how to work it.
3:02:22The dinner ends.
3:02:23You get up a few minutes next to me.
3:02:25You go right to the elevator and go upstairs.
3:02:27The rest of you guys will fly along.
3:02:28One of them is sort of the brandy there.
3:02:34You just wait about ten minutes, probably, and then bring the chopper in.
3:02:37You have to pull up.
3:02:38I bring it in.
3:02:42Yeah, you fly over.
3:02:44Yeah.
3:02:44Yeah.
3:02:46You just go right down to the basement, out of the door.
3:02:49This is all family, so it's no problem anyway.
3:02:53Just sit around and say goodbye.
3:02:57I think over and over, you think we should have A, C, Y. Oh yeah, Y. Yeah, right.
3:03:03I think it's better if there's A.
3:03:05Then we should have A. Yeah, that's right.
3:03:09Okay, good.
3:03:13I don't think it's any harm at all.
3:03:43You won't have to come upstairs.
3:03:46I think we should...
3:03:49I would like for them to, if I had respect for you or anything, but I can guess that they come and get bruised right away.

Nixon, Haldeman & Connally on Vietnam War and State of the Union Address

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