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Start Date: 24-Jan-1972 1:51 PM

End Date: 24-Jan-1972 3:00 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ehrlichman, John D.Mills, Wilbur D.Mills, Abbie L. (Daigh)

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:07:52

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:16:13

317a.mp3

317b.mp3

NARA Description:

On January 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, Wilbur D. Mills, and Abbie L. (Daigh) Mills met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:51 pm to 3:00 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 317-006 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 317-6
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Date: January 24, 1972
Time: 1:51 pm - 3:00 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.

     Frank L. Rizzo
          -Recent meeting with the President and Ehrlichman, January 24, 1972
          -Meeting with the President
               -Ward leaders
                     -Salary
                           -Pennsylvania budget
          -Subsequent meeting with Ehrlichman
               -Pennsylvania Congressmen
                     -Patronage
                           -Rizzo's control
          -Relations with White House
               -George P. Shultz and Leonard Garment
               -Pennsylvania

[The President talked with Wilbur D. Mills between 1:52 pm and 1:56 pm.]

[Conversation No. 317-6A]

[See Conversation No. 19-42]

[The President talked with Mills's granddaughter at an unknown time.]

[The President talked with Mills at an unknown time.]

[The President talked with Abbie L. (Daigh) Mills at an unknown time.]

[The President talked with Wilbur Mills between an unknown time after 1:52 pm and 1:56 pm.]

[End of telephone conversation]

     The President's previous conversation with Wilbur Mills
          -Abbie Mills and Wilbur Mills's granddaughter
               -Ages
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                                   Tape Subject Log
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                                                              Conv. No. 317-6 (cont.)


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    Federal programs
         -Funding
         -Rizzo
         -Low income housing
               -George W. Romney
               -Chicago
               -Romney
               -Robert H. Finch

    Romney
        -Future
             -Conversation with Ehrlichman
                 -Church
                 -Public service


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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[Duration: 48s ]


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    Campaign financing
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                                       Tape Subject Log
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                                                             Conv. No. 317-6 (cont.)


         -Walter H. Annenberg
              -Financial contribution
              -Deal with White House


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[Duration: 2m 12s ]


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    Frank T. Bow
         -Political plans
         -Meeting with the President
         -Age

    National economy
         -Unemployment
               -December 1971 figures
                    -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                    -Political staff
                    -By region and state
                          -South
                                 -Texas
                                 -Florida
                          -West
                                 -California
                                       -News summary
                                 -Oregon
                                 -Washington
                                 -Colorado
                                 -North Dakota
                          -East
                                 -Connecticut
                                 -New Jersey
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                                                       Conv. No. 317-6 (cont.)


                  -New York
                  -Pennsylvania
            -Midwest
                  -Ohio
                  -Illinois
                  -Michigan
-California project
-Ohio and Illinois
-Pennsylvania
      -Rizzo
      -William J. Green
            -Philadelphia
      -[Milton J. Shapp]
-New York
      -New York City
      -Compared with California
      -Nelson A. Rockefeller's welfare program
            -Federal money
-California
      -Federal money
-Ohio
      -John J. Gilligan
-Illinois
-Ohio
      -US Senate and House
      -Gilligan
            -Political prospects
-Illinois
      -Richard B. Ogilvie
      -Richard J. Daley
-California
-November 1971 figures
      -Shifting patterns
            -California
            -New York
            -Connecticut
-Texas, Florida, Illinois
-Demography
      -Black teens, Puerto Ricans and minority women
            -New York City
      -Married heads of households
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                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 317-6 (cont.)


               -Ehrlichman's possible discussions
                     -Charles W. Colson, John N. Mitchell and Haldeman
               -Texas and Florida
               -South
                     -Atlanta
                     -Blacks
                          -Menial labor
                               -North
                     -Women
                     -Unions

    Rizzo
         -Instruction for Ehrlichman
               -Domestic Council
               -Rizzo's constituency in other cities

    Busing
         -Edward L. Morgan's memorandum
               -Richmond case
                     -Judge [Robert R. Merhige, Jr.]
                           -Lyndon B. Johnson appointee
         -Elliot L. Richardson
         -Administration position
               -State of the Union address
                     -Local control of local schools
               -Constitutional amendment or legislative proposal
                     -Democratic National Convention
                     -Result
                           -Political polarization


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
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[Duration: 8s ]


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                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 317-6 (cont.)




Rizzo
     -Blacks' views
          -Philadelphia police
     -Meeting with the President
          -Photograph
          -Announcement to Philadelphia press
          -Federal money
          -Hugh Scott's administrative assistant
     -1972 election
          -Ehrlichman's possible conversation with Scott
                 -Congressional seats
                 -Annenberg's influence
                     -Campaign financing

Annenberg
    -Nomination as Ambassador to Great Britain
          -Withdrawal
               -Father
          -Religion
               -British Ambassador John Freeman
    -Conversations with Ehrlichman
          -Rizzo

Rizzo
     -Recent meeting with the President
           -Ehrlichman’s forthcoming call to Annenberg
     -Pittsburgh
           -Labor leaders
                 -Colson

Rockefeller
    -Call to Ehrlichman, January 22, 1972
          -State of the Union Address
          -Value Added Tax [VAT]
          -Federal funding for transportation
          -VAT
                -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew’s briefing of executive committee of
                      governors
                      -Agnew’s Cabinet briefing
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                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 317-6 (cont.)



VAT
      -Sales tax
      -Ehrlichman's possible conversation with the Vice President
            -Administration line
            -Advisory Commission on Intergovernmental Relations [ACIR]
            -Democrats
            -Options
                 -Agnew
                 -States
      -Calvin L. Rampton's views
            -Tax rebates
            -Agnew’s views
                 -Rockefeller

Agnew
    -Possible conversation with Ehrlichman

Legal services
     -Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO]
           -Ronald W. Reagan
     -Congressional action
           -Board of Directors
     -[Lois G. Forer]
           -Rizzo
           -Appointment by Shapp
           -Legal suit against Philadelphia
                 -Police court
     -Board of Directors
           -The President's appointment
           -Government control
                 -Ehrlichman’s view
           -Egil G. (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.’s and Richard H. Nordahl's views
                 -Public view
                 -Possible veto

Kissinger
     -Military security files
           -Allegation
           -Haldeman
           -Kissinger's conversation with Melvin R. Laird
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                                   Tape Subject Log
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                                                                  Conv. No. 317-6 (cont.)


              -Laird's possible action
              -Possible White House action
              -Jack N. Anderson
                    -Ehrlichman
                          -Laird


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    Howard R. Hughes
        -Book hoax
             -Payment of $625,000 to "Helga Hughes" [Edith Irving] by McGraw-Hill
                   -Switzerland
        -Lawrence F. O'Brien, Jr.
             -Humphrey's son-in-law
                   -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
        -Loan to the President's family


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
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[Duration: 1m 14s ]


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                                     Tape Subject Log
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
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[Duration: 2m 2s ]


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    1972 election
         -Hubert H. Humphrey
               -Possible financing by administration
                    -California


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 9
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 54s ]


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    Yeoman Charles E. Radford
        -Possible revelation of information
             -Joint Chiefs of Staff [JCS]
                    -Comments to acquaintances
        -Conversations with Anderson
             -Radford's conversations with [Forename unknown] Cole [sp?]

    Watergate
        -Wiretaps
              -Anderson
              -Unknown woman at State Department
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                                    Tape Subject Log
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                                                                   Conv. No. 317-6 (cont.)


                    -Unknown man
                    -Background
                    -Eugene J. Carroll, Jr. [?]
                    -Relations with Radford
              -Expansion
              -Unknown woman at State Department
                    -Sensitivity of position
                    -Unknown man
              -Reports
                    -Ehrlichman's perusal
                          -David R. Young, Jr.
                          -Kissinger
                    -Unknown man's conversation with Carroll [?]
                          -Radford's transfer
                          -Unknown yeoman
         -Transfer
              -Reason
                    -White House action
         -Clearance
              -Access to documents

    Responses to administration's opponents
        -Attacks

    Richmond busing case
        -Newspapers' reaction
             -The President’s State of the Union address
        -Linwood Holton's views

    The President's State of the Union Address
         -Tone
         -Delivery


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 12
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 26s ]
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                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 317-6 (cont.)


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    US foreign policy
         -The President's role
               -Kissinger
               -1972 election
         -People's Republic of China [PRC]
         -Soviet Union
               -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
               -India-Pakistan relations
               -PRC
         -Analogy to Great Britain's role in nineteenth century
         -PRC
         -Press coverage
               -PRC, Japan, Soviet Union
         -PRC
               -Soviet Union
               -Détente
         -Japan
               -Visit By Andrei A. Gromyko
               -Defense
               -Soviets
                     -Trade
               -The President’s forthcoming trip to PRC
               -PRC
                     -Soviet Union
         -Kissinger
         -William P. Rogers
               -State Department
                     -Soviet Union
         -Polls
         -1972 election
               -Economy
               -“Generation of peace”

    Council of Economic Advisors [CEA]
        -Herbert Stein
               -Paul W. McCracken
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                                                                Conv. No. 317-6 (cont.)



    John B. Connally
         -Relationship with Ehrlichman
         -Relationship with Peter M. Flanigan
         -Views of Peter G. Peterson
              -Commerce Department
              -Presidential statement
                    -Connally's conversation with Ehrlichman
         -Relationship with Flanigan
              -Compared with relationship with Peterson
         -Drug enforcement
              -Eugene T. Rossides
              -Treasury Department
                    -Bureaucracy
                         -Justice Department
                         -Krogh
         -Schedule
              -Flanigan's role
              -Use of White House staff
                    -Conversation with Ehrlichman
                    -Possible conversation with the President


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    Unknown people
        -Richardson [?]

    The President's forthcoming peace plan proposal speech
         -Scheduling
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                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 317-6 (cont.)


Ehrlichman left at 3:00 pm.