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Start Date: 2-Feb-1972 2:21 PM

End Date: 2-Feb-1972 2:50 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:01:38

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:32:26

318a.mp3

318b.mp3

318c.mp3

NARA Description:

On February 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:21 pm to 2:50 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 318-023 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 318-23

Date: February 2, 1972
Time: 2:21 pm - 2:50 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/10)




The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

     The President’s schedule

     Vietnam
          -Air strike
                -The President's conversations with Melvin R. Laird and Adm. Thomas H.
                      Moorer at recent National Security Council [NSC] meeting
                      -Pentagon leak
                      -Duration
                      -William P. Rogers
                -Effect
                      -France
          -Possible North Vietnamese offensive
                -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
                -State Department
                -Relations with the President's People's Republic Of China [PRC] trip
                      -News summary
                -South Vietnam
                      -The President’s trips to PRC, and Soviet Union
          -US operations
                -Timing
                      -The President's forthcoming PRC Trip
                            -“Protective reactive” strikes
                -Possible North Vietnamese offensive
                      -Bombing
                -Deployments
                      -USS Kitty Hawk
                            -Change In Position
                      -B-52's
                      -A-1's
                      -F-4's
                      -B-52's
                            -Number
                -Soviet Union and PRC
          -Negotiations
                -Edmund S. Muskie
                      -Compared to Edward M. Kennedy
                -Clark M. Clifford
                -W[illiam] Averell Harriman
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          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                     Tape Subject Log
                       (rev. 10/10)
                                                     Conv. No. 318-23 (cont.)


-Prisoners of war [POWs] release
      -Deadline
-Cease-fire proposal
-Muskie's statements
      -Administration attack
           -The President’s position in 1968
           -Ronald L. Ziegler
           -Rogers
           -Negotiations
                  -Partisanship
      -Possible impact
      -1972 campaign
           -John V. Lindsay
           -George S. McGovern
           -Iowa and Arizona caucuses
      -Harriman
      -Wall Street Journal editorial
      -Administration attack
           -Barry M. Goldwater
-PRG [Viet Cong] peace plan
      -Similarity to US position
      -Nguyen Van Thieu
      -POW release
           -US troop withdrawal
           -Thieu's resignation
-US peace plan proposal of January 25, 1972
      -North Vietnamese response
      -Thieu's possible action
      -South Vietnam
           -Preparedness for possible North Vietnamese offensive
      -Muskie's statements
           -Administration attack
                  -Ziegler
                  -Rogers
                  -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                        -Request for a call to the President
                        -Meeting with the President and Ziegler
                             -Kissinger’s schedule
                  -Ziegler
                  -Laird
                  -Rogers
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. 10/10)
                                                                Conv. No. 318-23 (cont.)


          -Delicacy of talks
               -Effect of Muskie's statements
                     -North Vietnamese perception
                     -Administration attack
                     -Media coverage
                           -Washington Post and New York Times
                           -Television networks
                     -Kissinger's conversation with Ellsworth F. Bunker
          -Muskie’s statements
               -Administration attack
                     -Spiro T. Agnew
                           -Bombing
                                 -Hanoi
                                 -Previous attacks
                                      -Five day strike
               -Timing
                     -The President’s forthcoming PRC trip
               -Administration attack
                     -Stewart J.O. Alsop
                     -Rogers
                     -Hugh Scott
                     -Ziegler's statement
                           -Errors in Muskie's statement
                                 -Ceasefire
                     -Rogers
                     -Scott
                     -Patrick J. Buchanan
                     -Agnew
                     -Rogers
                     -Scott
                     -Gerald R. Ford
                     -Editorials
                           -Unknown journalist

PRC trip
    -William F. Buckley, Jr.
          -Invitation
          -Meeting with the President
          -Criticism of Administration
                -Meeting with Kissinger
                -James L. Buckley
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                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. 10/10)
                                                                 Conv. No. 318-23 (cont.)



    Vietnam
         -Air strike
               -Contingency plans
               -Timing
                     -Three fronts
                     -The President’s forthcoming PRC trip
               -Deployments
                     -US carrier
                     -B-52’s


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              -Agnew
                  -Warnings
                      -Laos, Cambodia, Christmas 1971 bombings

    Agnew
        -Kissinger’s view
        -Goldwater's view in letter
             -Haldeman's report
             -Briefing on issues
             -Kissinger’s forthcoming breakfast with Goldwater

    Michael J. Mansfield breakfast, February 3, 1972
        -Kissinger's schedule
        -The President's forthcoming PRC trip
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/10)
                                                                Conv. No. 318-23 (cont.)


          -Japan
     -Vietnam
          -US peace proposal
               -Troop withdrawal for POWs offer
               -Political settlement
               -North Vietnamese position
               -Leaks
                     -Mansfield
               -Soviet Union
                     -Andrei A. Gromyko and Nikolai V. Podgorny
               -Chou En-lai
               -Gromyko
               -Muskie's statements
                     -Threat to negotiations

Vietnam
     -US peace proposals
          -North Vietnamese response
               -Thieu
                     -Political prospects
               -Muskie's statements
          -The President's speech of January 25, 1972
               -Effect on Muskie
          -Muskie's statement
               -North Vietnamese position
               -South Vietnam government
               -Quotes
                     -Negotiations
                     -Casualties
                           -Civilians
                     -US troops
                     -Cease-fire proposal
               -Validity
               -Administration attack
                     -Ziegler
                     -Cease-fire offers of October 1970, January 1972
                     -Withdrawal of North Vietnam
                     -Democrats' rhetoric
                     -News coverage
                           -Timing
                           -Kissinger forthcoming talk with Ziegler
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                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                   Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. 10/10)
                                                                   Conv. No. 318-23 (cont.)



    Lt. Gen. Vernon A. Walters
         -Nomination as Deputy Director of Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
               -Richard M. Helms's and Laird's actions
               -Helms’s recommendation
                     -John C. Stennis
               -Kissinger's recommendation
                     -Helms's support
                           -Talking points
                     -Kissinger's possible call to Stennis
                           -Stennis's possible call to Helms
                     -Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with Helms
                           -The President's wishes
                     -Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with Laird
               -Qualifications
                     -Helms’s view
                     -Position vis-à-vis Administration
                     -Military attaché in France
                     -Compared with Gen. Robert E. Cushman, Jr.
               -Kissinger's call to Helms
                     -The President’s decision
               -Liaison with White House


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              -Kissinger's call to Helms
              -The Administration’s relationship with Helms
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/10)
                                                                      Conv. No. 318-23 (cont.)



     Vietnam
          -US peace proposal
               -Unity within the Administration
               -Recent briefing
               -Muskie
                    -Administration attack
                           -1972 campaign
          -Bombing
               -Timing
                    -The President's forthcoming PRC trip
                           -Television coverage
          -US peace offers
               -Muskie

     Kissinger's schedule
          -Kenneth B. Keating

Kissinger left at 2:50 pm.