Conversation: 319-019
Prev: 319-018 Next: 319-020Start Date: Monday, February 7, 1972 9:55 PM
End Date: Tuesday, February 8, 1972 12:15 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Price, Raymond K., Jr.; [Unknown person(s)]; White House operator; Ziegler, Ronald L.; Sanchez, Manolo; Kissinger, Henry A.; Bull, Stephen B.Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:20:58
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:27:32
NARA Description:
On February 7, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Raymond K. Price, Jr., unknown person(s), White House operator, Ronald L. Ziegler, Manolo Sanchez, Henry A. Kissinger, and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:55 pm to 7:15 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 319-019 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 319-19
Date: February 7, 1972
Time: 4:55 pm - 7:15 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with Rose Mary Woods.
Typing
-Marjorie P. Acker
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-Format of document
Raymond K. Price, Jr.’s drafts of speech to White House Conference on Industrial World
Ahead, February 7, 1972
-Conversation with Woods
-William L. Safire
F. Donald Nixon
-Jack N. Anderson’s forthcoming stories
-Democrats
-President’s conversation with John D. Ehrlichman
-J. William Marriott’s conversation with Anderson
-Conversation with reporter [George Clifford]
-John H. Meier
-Conversations concerning Meier
-John D. Ehrlichman
-Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Conversation with Clifford
-Business activities
-Donald A. Nixon connection with Robert L. Vesco
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[Duration: 5s ]
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-Lunch
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-Conversation with Clifford
-Conversation with Marriott
-Anderson’s forthcoming stories
-Threat
-Veracity
-President’s conversation with Ehrlichman
-1972 campaign
-John N. Mitchell
-Ehrlichman’s possible meeting with Haldeman and Woods
-Edward C. Nixon
-Timing
-Possible reaction
H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 5:00 pm.
Price
-Preparation of speech
-The President’s schedule
-Price’s style
-Background
-President’s upcoming trip to the People’s Republic of China [PRC]
President’s forthcoming speech
-Price’s view
-Preparation
-Time allotted
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal Returnable]
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Conv. No. 319-19 (cont.)
[Duration: 1m 41s ]
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Price entered at an unknown time after 5:00 pm.
President’s forthcoming speech
-Content
-Changes
-Described to Price
-US competition
-Wage and price controls
-Inflation
-Jobs
-Goals
-Industrial leaders
-Press
Price and Woods left at 5:18 pm.
Price
President’s forthcoming speech
-Preparation
-Possible effect
-John B. Connally
An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 5:18 pm.
Refreshments
The unknown person left at an unknown time before 5:57 pm.
President’s forthcoming speech
-Preparation
-Compared to inaugural address
Don Nixon
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Conv. No. 319-19 (cont.)
-President’s conversation with John D. Ehrlichman
-John N. Mitchell
-Plan
-Relations with White House
-Ehrlichman, Mitchell
-Haldeman, Woods
Forthcoming conversations
-Anderson’s stories
-Marketing
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[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 15m 45s ]
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Campaign financing
-Funds
-Mitchell
-Rita E. Hauser
-Possible problems
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 2m 11s ]
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Conv. No. 319-19 (cont.)
Administration personnel
-Connally
-Skill
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Tenure in office
-Gen. Alexander M. Haig, Jr.’s views
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[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 42s ]
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President’s schedule
-Quadriad
-Views of Connally and George P. Shultz
-Purpose of meeting
-Economic stabilization
-Donald H. Rumsfeld
-Connally, Shultz, Herbert Stein
-Arthur F. Burns
-Haldeman’s possible conversation with Connally
-Timing of upcoming meeting
-Forthcoming trip to the People’s Republic of China [PRC]
Connally
-Schedule
-Haldeman’s call to unknown woman
-Possible role with administration
-Vice Presidency
-State Department
-Kissinger
-Foreigners
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Conv. No. 319-19 (cont.)
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Possible role with Administration
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[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 3m 53s ]
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Don Nixon
-Relations with the President
-President’s conversation with Ehrlichman
-Anderson
-Conversation with J. Williard (“Bill”) Marriott, Jr.
-Mitchell’s views
-Ronald L. Ziegler’s response to possible questions
-Marriott
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 33s ]
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Teleprompter
-Use by President
-Purpose
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Conv. No. 319-19 (cont.)
-William F. (“Billy”) Graham’s views
-Advantages
-Future speeches
President’s schedule
-George Meany
-Possible breakfast
-Timing
-PRC trip
-Location
-Florida
-Shultz’s views
President’s schedule
-Ehrlichman
-Busing issue
-Florida
-Shultz
-Connally
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 5:18 pm.
Refreshments
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:57 pm.
President’s conversation with Ziegler
-Today show
Spokesmen for administration
-Ziegler, Kissinger
-Hugh Scott’s defense of Haldeman
-Haldeman’s interview on the Today show
-Michael J. Mansfield
-Haldeman’s interview on the Today show
-Muskie
The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 5:18 pm and
5:57 pm and requested a call to Ziegler.
[Conversation No. 319-19A]
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Conv. No. 319-19 (cont.)
[See also Conversation No. 20-53]
[End of telephone conversation]
William P. Rogers
-State Department
-Press
The White House operator talked with the President at 5:57 pm.
[Conversation No. 319-19B]
[See also Conversation No. 20-54]
[End of telephone conversation]
Haldeman’s interview on the Today show
-The President’s Cabinet dinner
-Administration’s goals and accomplishments
-Idealism
-News story
-Vietnam [?]
-Kissinger
-Potential longevity of news story
-Kissinger
-Rogers
Briefing in State Department auditorium
-President’s concern
Rogers
-Cabinet breakfast, February 8, 1972
-Kissinger
Kissinger
-Style
-Relationship with Haig
-Cambodia
-Haldeman’s opinion
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Scott
-Compared to Carey Estes Kefauver
-Relationship with Kissinger
Vietnam
-Peace proposal plan
Haldeman’s interview
-Source
-Democratic presidential candidates
-Press coverage
-Life, New York Times, Washington Post
-Potential longevity of news story
-Vietnam
-Peace proposal
-Muskie
-Proposed weakness
Ziegler
-Press interest
Rogers
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[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 3m 38s ]
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Crime
-Possible federal action
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Dr. Jerome H. Jaffe office
-Compassion towards drug addicts
-Possible arrests
-Popular opinion
-Difference from Jaffe’s opinion
-Movie, The French Connection
-Movie, Dirty Harry
-Clint Eastwood
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[Duration: 17s ]
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Dirty Harry
-Haldeman’s synopsis of movie
-Danny Escobedo case
-Discussed during movie
-[Dwight] David and Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Opinion of movie
-The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly
Ziegler entered at 6:11 pm.
President’s forthcoming speech
David Brinkley
Kissinger’s forthcoming talks with Chou En-lai in the PRC
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Conv. No. 319-19 (cont.)
President’s forthcoming trip to PRC
-President’s preparation
-Briefing books
-History of PRC
-Edgar P. Snow
-Ziegler’s statements
-Proposed list of questions
President’s forthcoming trip to Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Emil (“Bus”) Mosbacher, Jr.
-Invitations to press
-Clark R. Mollenhoff
-[Forename unknown] Wilson [?]
-Herbert G. Klein
United Press International [UPI] story
-Ziegler’s press briefing
Press for forthcoming trip
-Washington Post, New York Times, Los Angeles Times
-Boston Globe, Newsday
-Martin Schram
-Unknown woman
-Sarah McClendon
-Boston Globe
-Joseph C. Kraft
-Possible questions for the President
-Ziegler’s press briefing
-William F. Buckley, Jr.
-Criticism of the President
-President’s role
-Ziegler’s list of press
-Possible selections
-Washington Post
Haldeman’s interview on the Today show
-Possible press reaction
-New York Times, Washington Post
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-Possible “McCarthyism”
-[Carol Feraci’s] protest at White House dinner, January 28, 1972
-Liberals
Kissinger
-Comments concerning foreign policy report
-Possible defense of Haldeman’s interview
-Possible comment concerning Vietnam negotiations
-US stance
-Muskie
-Rogers
-Haldeman
Ziegler’s recent press conference
-Muskie
Vietnam
-Press coverage of the President’s points
President’s schedule
-Press conference, February 10, 1972
-Timing
-Location
-Length
-Question and Answer [Q&A] session
Mollenhoff
-Forthcoming call from Ziegler
-President’s forthcoming trip to PRC
-Mollenhoff’s attendance at PRC trip
-Press pool
Kissinger entered at 6:28 pm.
Ziegler
-President’s upcoming speech
Ziegler left at 6:29 pm.
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President’s previous speech in Vietnam
-USSR’s commentary
-Views of PRC
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
-Reply
-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-Questioning US proposal
-Forthcoming PRC trip
Vietnam
-Negotiations
-Xuan Thuy
-Muskie
-W[illiam] Averell Harriman
-Kissinger’s conversation with Dobrynin
-Muskie
-1972 election
-Possible agreement
-George McGovern’s Program
-Gen. Nguyen Van Thieu
1972 campaign
-Muskie
-Connally’s comments on Muskie’s proposal
-Kissinger’s briefing
Memorandum concerning PRC
-February 5, 1972
-Kissinger
-Klemens von Metternich
-Chou En-lai
-Style
-Knowledge of history
-Queen Victoria
-Marquis de Lafayette
-French Revolution
-American Revolutionary War
-Yorktown
-Lessons for the world to follow
-Guerrilla warfare
-Indochina
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-USSR
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[Duration: 59s ]
CHINA, INDIA
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Memorandum concerning Chou En-lai
-President’s forthcoming trip to PRC
-Communiqué
-Domestic matters
-Race
-World politics
-US policy
-Non-intervention
-Compared to support of national liberation movement
President’s forthcoming trip to PRC
-President’s preparation
-Kissinger’s efforts
-Briefing book
-Background
-State Department efforts
-PRC briefing papers
-Kissinger’s efforts
-Length of briefing book
-President receiving briefing book
-Timing
-Rogers
-President’s instructions
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-Possible leaks from PRC trip
-Prevention
-Reception from PRC
-Dobrynin
-Tone
-Photograph opportunities
-Chou En-lai, Mao Tse-tung
-Activities
-Visits to Great Wall, plenary session, banquets
-Press
-Thomas W. Braden
-Walter L. Cronkite, Jr.
-Barbara Walters
-Helen A. Thomas
-Betty Ryan
Vietnam
-Military activity
-Kissinger’s conversation with Adm. Thomas H. Moorer
-The President’s proposal
-Possible effect
-Timing
-Forthcoming PRC trip
-Braden’s columns
-Negotiations
-Xuan Thuy
-President’s January 25, 1972 speech
-US proposals
-August 16, 1971
-Unknown people
-US proposals
-South Vietnam election
-Xuan Thuy
-President’s opponents
-McGovern’s position
-US public opinion
-Thieu
-Possible overthrow
-Journalists
-Establishment
-Public opinion
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-UPI story
-Prisoner of war [POW] wives
-Current attitudes
-President’s instructions
-News summary
-Publicity
-Maj. Gen. James D. (“Don”) Hughes’s memorandum to President
-John A. Scali
-Stewart W. Hensley
-POW wives
-Support from the Administration
-Vietnam Veterans Against the War [VVAW]
-John F. Kerry
-Paul N. (“Pete”) McCloskey, Jr.
-Veracity
President’s forthcoming trip to PRC
-Press
-UPI reporter
-President’s concern
-Request for factual reporting
Life magazine articles
-Vietnam casualties
-Vietnamese youths
-Thomas Griffith
Time “Man of the Year”
Vietnam
-McGovern’s program
-Democrats
-Stewart J.O. Alsop’s column
-National honor
President’s forthcoming trip to PRC
-Press approved by the PRC
-Joseph W. and Stewart Alsop
-William S. White
-Buckley
-James J. Kilpatrick, Jr.
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Conv. No. 319-19 (cont.)
-Possible lecture fees
-Press
-Number
-Shanghai
-Hang Chow
-PRC news story
-Probable longevity
-Possible press conference
-Cronkite, Walters, John W. Chancellor
-PRC events
-Briefings by administration
-Timing
President’s trip to USSR in 1959
-Congress’s “Captive Nations” resolution
-Nikita S. Khrushchev
-Hecklers
-Question for President
-Press coverage
-Result
President’s forthcoming trip to PRC
-Possible press coverage
-PRC compared to USSR
-Communism
-Television networks
Chinese
-Medical practices
-Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
-Account in unknown book
-Unknown Korean medicine
-Cost
-Availability
-Stories in Shanghai
PRC
-Stores
-Compared with USSR
-Gum
-Markets
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Conv. No. 319-19 (cont.)
President’s forthcoming trip to USSR
-Stores and markets
-Compared with the US
International monetary situation
-Georges J.R. Pompidou
-Connally
-Arthur F. Burns’s view
-US policy
-Maintaining the value of the US dollar
-Connally
-Forthcoming conversation with Kissinger
-Connally’s conversations with the Canadians
-Possible treaty
-Pierre E. Trudeau
-Political situation
-Possible confrontation with Canada
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Election
-Negotiations with US
-Trade
-Canadian policy
-Connally
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 6:29 pm.
President’s forthcoming speech [?]
Bull left at an unknown time before 7:15 pm.
President’s schedule
-Briefing books
President’s forthcoming trip to PRC
-Kissinger’s briefing books
-Memoranda
Kissinger and Haldeman left at 7:15 pm.
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