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Start Date: 9-Feb-1972 12:16 PM

End Date: 9-Feb-1972 1:05 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Ziegler, Ronald L.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:03:59

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:49:21

321a.mp3

321b.mp3

NARA Description:

On February 9, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:16 pm to 1:05 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 321-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 321-3

Date: February 9, 1972
Time: 12:16 pm - 1:05 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and Ronald L. Ziegler.

     Press relations
           -Manolo Sanchez

     Democrats
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 321-3 (cont.)


     -Foreign policy report, February 9, 1972
           -Associated Press [AP]
     -Presidential candidates
           -Criticism
                 -Vietnam
                       -Enemies
                             -Prolonging war
                       -Compared to 1968
     -President’s instructions to Ziegler
           -Candidates
                 -Edmund S. Muskie
                 -1968 bombing halt
                 -1966
                       -Non-Presidential election year
                       -Lack of negotiations
           -Ngo Dinh Diem
                 -President’s earlier criticisms
           -United Press International [UPI]
                 -Effect of criticism on war
                       -1972 election

National policy
     -Network commentary
     -William P. Rogers’s call
           -Bomb shelters
     -Nixon administration
           -Foreign policy report
                -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
                -Dan Rather
                      -Innovation
                      -Generosity of peace terms
                            -History of warfare
                      -Marvin L. Kalb
                            -Possible quotes
                            -Nixon’s critics
                      -Nixon’s critics
                            -Henry A. Kissinger
                                  -George S. McGovern
                                  -Communists
                            -Haldeman’s comments on Today show, February 7, 1972
           -National Broadcasting Company [NBC]’s views
                                           3

                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 321-3 (cont.)


                -Peter Hackess
           -American Broadcasting Company [ABC]’s views
                -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                -Moscow
                -Paris
                -Critics
                -Debate
           -Kissinger
                -McGovern
                      -Plan to end the Vietnam war
                            -Communism
                      -Saigon
                      -Patriotism

Press Room
      -Gerald L. Warren
           -Vietnam
                 -Press reaction to text of foreign policy report radio address

Vietnam
     -President’s instructions
           -Muskie
                -McGovern
                -Hubert H. Humphrey
                -Edward M. Kennedy
                       -Possible attacks form the left
                -1968
     -President’s foreign policy report speech
           -Television line
                -Length
                -Highlights
                       -Possible cuts
                -Leroy Henderson
                -Cameras
                -Technicians
                -Teleprompter
                       -The President’s experience

Foreign policy report
     -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
     -Kissinger
                                         4

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                          Conv. No. 321-3 (cont.)


          -Press coverage
     -Ziegler’s role
     -John A. Scali [?]

H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman’s statement on Today show
     -President’s reaction
           -Patrick J. Buchanan
           -The left
           -Hugh Scott
           -Kennedy
     -Ziegler’s views
     -Buchanan
           -Meeting with Ziegler
                 -Developing the President’s response

President’s schedule
     -Camp David
           -PRC
                 -Readings
     -Florida visit
           -John B. Connally
           -John D. Ehrlichman
           -Domestic issues
                 -Timing
                 -PRC
                 -Connally
                 -Ehrlichman
                 -Rogers
                       -Location
                 -Connally
                       -Focus on domestic issues
                            -Adele (Langston) Rogers
                 -George P. Shultz
     -Camp David
           -PRC
           -Rogers
     -Florida
           -Domestic issues

White House staff
     -President’s defense
                                          5

                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 321-3 (cont.)


     -Press
     -Vietnam
          -Cambodia and Laos
                 -Unknown person
     -Ziegler’s previous conversations
          -Comparison with Lyndon B. Johnson administration
          -Comparison with John F. Kennedy administration
                 -Not being able to work together
                      -Compared to current Administration
                            -Support for Haldeman [?]
                 -Domestic issues

Nicholas and Alexandra
     -Kissinger
          -Grigori Y. Rasputin
     -Historical movies
          -Production costs

Kissinger
     -Podium

Liberals
     -Relationship with the President

Press conferences
      -Question
      -Ziegler’s briefing
      -Frequency
            -Presidential reaction
      -Public view
      -AP story
      -Johnson
      -Policy areas
            -Comparisons
      -Unknown woman
            -Prospects for frequent press conferences
            -Previous conversation with Haldeman
      -Supposed issue
            -Need for frequent press conferences
            -Administration “non-issue”
            -Credibility
                                         6

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 321-3 (cont.)


     -Haldeman
           -Unknown woman
                 -James B. (“Scotty”) Reston
     -Upcoming press conference
           -Style
           -PRC
     -[Shah of Iran] Mohammed Reza Pahlavi visit
           -Timing
     -Briefing
           -Off the record
           -Ziegler’s views
                 -Kissinger’s backgrounder
                 -Hawaii
                       -Upcoming Presidential press conference
                            -Timing

President’s instructions to Haldeman
     -Kissinger
     -Muskie
     -Humphrey
     -Reston’s influence
           -Reston’s column
           -Kissinger

PRC trip
    -Possible press attendees
         -Stanley Karnow
    -Charles B. Rangel
    -Peregrine Worsthorne
    -PRC
    -Press list
         -Jews
                -Numbers
         -Blacks
                -Numbers
    -White House staff
         -Possible questions
         -Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft
         -Vernon G. Coffey, Jr.
                -Military assistant
         -Secret Service
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 321-3 (cont.)


                       -Assistance
                 -Black reporter, [Forename unknown] Simmons
                       -Style admired by the President
           -Press
                 -Air Force One
                 -Nationwide selection
                 -NBC
                       -Black reporter
                 -CBS
                 -Networks
                       -Ability to choose reporters
           -Military aide
                 -Coffey
           -Secret Service
                 -Blacks
                       -Detail
                 -Filipino
                       -Zosimo T. Monzon

     News story
         -Buchanan
               -Handling
               -Story style

     President’s schedule
          -Buchanan

Ziegler left at 12:50 pm.

     News story
         -Possible reaction
               -Foreign policy report radio address
               -“Year of the Breakthrough”
         -Kissinger
               -Shock
               -Statement, February 8, 1972
         -Constitutional definition
               -Patriotism
               -Treason
                     -Haldeman’s comments
         -Kissinger
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 321-3 (cont.)



     Veterans groups
          -Meeting with Henry C. Cashen, II
          -Medal of Honor
          -National convention
          -Herbert R. (“Chief”) Rainwater
                -Telegram

     President’s speech
          -Congress
                -Length of time

     Vietnam
          -Critics of President’s policy
                -Foreign policy radio address

     World report
         -Length
         -Possible impact

     Foreign policy report radio address


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     Unknown person
         -Tenure
         -John N. Mitchell

Haldeman left at 1:05 pm.
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 321-3 (cont.)