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Start Date: 27-Mar-1972 9:25 AM

End Date: 27-Mar-1972 10:55 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:10:22

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:16:52

327a.mp3

327b.mp3

NARA Description:

On March 27, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:25 am and 10:55 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 327-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 327-5
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)




Date: March 27, 1972
Time: 9:25 am - unknown before 10:55 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Weather

     John B. Connally
          -Call from H. Ross Perot
                -Prisoners of war [POWs]
                -Desire to meet with the President
                      -Henry A. Kissinger
                      -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                      -The President’s view

     Perot
             -Haldeman’s view
                   -Bernard M. Baruch
             -Schedule
                   -The President
                   -Kissinger
             -Scheme regarding POWs
                   -Medical supplies
                   -Haig’s views
             -Previous call to Haldeman
                   -Possible meeting with the President
                   -Democratic presidential candidates
             -William F. (“Billy”) Graham
             -Relationship with Connally
             -Schedule
                   -Possible meeting with The President and Connally
                   -Haig
                   -Peter M. Flanigan
                   -Lt. Gen. Vernon A. Walters
                   -Brent G. Scowcroft
                         -The President’s view
                               -Maj. Gen. James D. (“Don”) Hughes
                   -Haig
                   -Walters
                         -Secret initiatives
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                            Conv. No. 327-5 (cont.)


                       -The President’s knowledge
     -Conversations with the President
          -The President’s view
          -Haldeman’s view
          -Deniability
     -Views
          -Bureaucracy
     -Schedule
          -Haig
          -Walters
                -Paris
     -Possible conversation with Haldeman
          -Secret initiatives
                -Ambassadors
                -White House
                -State Department
                -Walters
                       -Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
                       -Paris
                       -The President’s view
                              -Scowcroft
     -Connally’s possible views
     -Walters
     -Use of staff for political purposes
          -Administration’s role
     -Stock market deal
          -Flanigan
          -Wealth
          -Aid to administration
          -Haldeman’s view
     -Possible meeting with the President
          -Haldeman’s view
     -Schedule
          -Possible meeting with Walters

Kissinger
     -The President’s previous conversation with Haig
          -News summary
          -William P. Rogers
          -Arthur K. Watson
          -Marshall Green
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                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                             Conv. No. 327-5 (cont.)


         -Calls from the President
         -Perot
               -The President’s view
               -Job performance

    White House gifts
         -Paperweights
              -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
              -Jim Garrity [sp?]
              -Possible number
              -Inscriptions
              -Possible distribution
                    -Purposes
                          -Good luck pieces
                    -Presidential seal


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[Political Returnable]
[Duration: 42s ]


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              -Oval Office
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                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 327-5 (cont.)


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[Political Returnable]
[Duration: 48s ]


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              -Hangers

    Walters
         -Confirmation
              -W[illiam] Stuart Symington
              -Possible appointment
              -CIA

    Mitchell
         -Schedule
              -Florida
              -Martha (Beall) Mitchell

    International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT]
          -Dita D. Beard
                -Edward M. Kennedy’s questions
                -Testimony
                      -Call from the White House to William R. Merriam [?]
                            -San Diego
                            -Robert H. Finch, Herbert G. Klein
                            -Charles W. Colson
          -San Diego convention
                -Financing
                      -White House involvement
                            -Finch, Klein
                            -William E. Timmons
                            -Finch
                            -Jack Gleason
                                  -Colson’s views
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 327-5 (cont.)


                            -White House contact
      -Congressional hearings
           -James O. Eastland
                 -Schedule
                 -Conversation with Phil Hart
                       -Harold S. Geneen
           -Abe Fortas
           -Jacob K. Javits
           -Possible administration action
                 -Appointments in the South
           -Possible reconsideration of Richard G. Kleindienst’s confirmation
                 -Eastland
      -Kleindienst’s confirmation
           -Eastland
           -Confirmation
                 -Votes
           -John N. Mitchell
           -Clark MacGregor

Confirmations
     -Walters
     -Ambassadors
          -Career Foreign Service officers
          -Political appointees
     -Importance
     -Possible questions
          -Campaign contributions
     -Kleindienst confirmations

Jack N. Anderson
     -60 Minutes
     -News magazines
     -Haldeman’s view
          -Clark R. Mollenhoff
     -Possible Administration action
          -Colson [?]

ITT
      -Beard
           -Alleged call from the White House
           -Financing of San Diego convention
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                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. 10/06)
                                                             Conv. No. 327-5 (cont.)


             -Alleged call from White House
         -Congressional hearings
             -Merriam [?]
             -Geneen
             -Gleason

    National economy
         -Food prices
               -Butz
                     -Consumers
               -Esther Peterson
               -Connally’s possible meeting
                     -Earl L. Butz
                     -Donald H. Rumsfeld
                     -Colson
                     -Richard Lyng
                     -The President’s role
                           -Cost of Living Council [COLC]
                     -Colson
                     -Herbert Stein
                     -George P. Shultz


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 11m 11s ]


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    National issues
         -Busing
         -Tax reform
         -Unemployment
         -Abortion
               -Michigan
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                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 327-5 (cont.)


                   -Ballot of referendum
              -Motives of proponents
                   -The President’s view
                   -Haldeman’s view

    Civil rights march
          -Administration response


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 52s ]


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    Administration public relations
        -Marshall Green
              -Television appearance
                    -Haig’s views
                    -Kissinger
                    -Taiwan, Republic of China
        -State Department
              -Knowledge of the President’s policies
              -Kissinger’s conduct
                    -The President’s view
                    -The President’s previous conversation with Green
                          -Shanghai Communiqué
                          -Green’s television appearance compared with Kissinger’s
                                backgrounder
                                -Promoting the President’s policies
        -Rogers
              -Chicago
              -Regional television
        -Return from the President’s trip to the People’s Republic of China [PRC]
              -Busing
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 327-5 (cont.)


           -The President’s statements on PRC
           -Scali
           -Kissinger
           -Rogers
           -Cabinet
           -John D. Ehrlichman
                 -Domestic programs
                 -Television
           -Regional television
                 -Cabinet
                 -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
                      -Treatment by national media
                      -Speech regarding American accomplishments
                            -George S. McGovern
                            -Edmund S. Muskie

1972 campaign
     -Issues
           -National economy
                -Taxes
                      -Connally’s view
                          -George C. Wallace
                                -Wisconsin
                                      -Florida
                                      -Busing
                                      -Taxes
                                            -Efforts of Democratic Senators
                          -Cutting spending
                                -Welfare
                                      -School programs
                                      -Food stamps
                                      -Intercontinental ballistic missiles [ICBMs]
                                      -Submarines
                                      -The President’s view
                                            -Shultz
                                            -Ehrlichman
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 327-5 (cont.)


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 3m 29s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

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     Ehrlichman
           -Schedule
                -Visit to California
                      -Son
                            -Stanford University
                -Compared to Kissinger
           -Conversation with Haldeman regarding Peter Lisagor
                -Lisagor’s television show
                      -The President’s previous press conference

     The President’s previous press conference
          -Newspaper coverage
          -Television coverage
                -The President’s view
          -Ehrlichman’s views

     1972 campaign
          -States

     Famine

The conversation was cut off at an unknown time before 10:55 am.
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)