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Start Date: 5-Apr-1972 11:45 AM

End Date: 5-Apr-1972 12:23 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:22:50

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:00:35

330a.mp3

330b.mp3

330c.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 5, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:45 am to 12:23 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 330-017 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 330-17

Date: April 5, 1972
Time: 11:45 am - 12:23 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Charles W. Colson.


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       The President's Philadelphia speech on non-public education

       John Cardinal Krol
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)



            -Conversation with Colson
            -Reaction to the President's visit
                 -Dinner
                 -1968 campaign
                 -White House church service
            -Remarks concerning the President
                 -1968
                 -Catholics' views

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 11:45 am.

       Refreshment
            -Calories

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:23 pm.

       The President's Philadelphia speech on non-public education
            -Opposition
                  -John B. Connally
                         -Reasons
            -Aid for non-public education
                  -Public schools
                         -Lack of confidence
                  -Need for religion
                  -Criticisms
                         -Fundamentalists
                         -National Education Association [NEA]
                  -Colson's meeting with Krol
                         -The President's convictions
                         -Krol's understanding of the Catholic Church
                               -Respect for the President
                  -Domestic Council
                         -Conflicts
                               -John Dewey
                               -Progressive education proponents
                                     -Elliot L. Richardson
                                     -Margaret Chase Smith
                                     -Ed [Surname unknown]
                                     -John D. Ehrlichman
                                     -Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
                  -The President's convictions
                  -Connally's remarks
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                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 330-17 (cont.)

                  -Richardson
                        -Tax credits
                        -Support for aid
                  -Prejudice
                        -Antagonism
                              -NEA
           -Political damage
                  -Knights of Columbus
                  -Southern Baptists
                  -Fred Rose
                        -Assessment
                              -Southern Baptists

      Catholics
           -Views on population control
                 -Timing
                 -Patricia Colson
           -Abortion
                 -Colson's church attendance
           -Literature
                 -Opposition to abortion and legalization of marijuana


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      Campaign practices
          -Reports from inside George S. McGovern organization
                -Compared with George W. Romney
                -Lack of humor
                -Organization
                      -Strength
                      -Douglas L. Hallett
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 330-17 (cont.)

                             -Former roommate
                             -Providing information to White House


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      Congress
           -Check-off Bill
                -Presidential veto
                      -Reasons
                      -Press coverage
                -Bipartisan support
                -Passage in Senate
                -Conference consideration
                -House

      Colson's conversation with unknown person


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      Campaign practices
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 330-17 (cont.)

           -Theoretical attack by McGovern
                -Use of rumor
                -Missouri
                -New Hampshire
                       -Photographs
                -Oregon primary
                -Press coverage


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      International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT] case
            -Senate Judiciary Committee hearings
                  -Schedule
                        -Colson's conversation with Wallace H. Johnson
                        -Hiram L. Fong
                        -Strom Thurmond
                        -Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
                        -James O. Eastland
                        -Hugh Scott
                        -Charles McC. Mathias, Jr.
                  -Witnesses
                        -Clark MacGregor
                        -Richard G.Kleindienst
                        -John N. Mitchell
                        -Robert C. Mardian
                  -Roman L. Hruska

     Education
          -The President's Philadelphia speech draft
               -John K. Andrews, Jr.
               -Patrick J. Buchanan
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 330-17 (cont.)

                        -Note to Colson
                   -Nuances
                        -Religion
                   -Buchanan
                        -Sensitivities to Catholic view

Colson left at 12:23 pm.