Nixon & Colson on J. Edgar Hoover and Vietnam War

2:08:36I wonder if Ted here really ever worried anything about these babes.
2:08:38There's been a lot of people worried about them.
2:08:41Yeah, but he was, uh, he was, uh, he was probably established, you know, he was picked up without me doing anything.
2:09:07And he went to the state trooper who picked him up and reported to the state trooper.
2:09:12The state trooper denied it.
2:09:14But the only one who did, the state trooper's mother, she broke down and said, yes, it's true, but it wasn't recent.
2:09:22Of course, if it is recent, then it's published in the book.
2:09:28And he's got public evidence to be worried about.
2:09:34I don't know.
2:10:12The last time I saw him in person, he looked like he was drinking.
2:10:17He was a puppy.
2:10:20He's got that same disease, jackknife disease.
2:10:24Jackknife disease.
2:10:25He's got a carousel on him.
2:10:28That's what it is.
2:10:29It's the same.
2:10:30We'll never get him.
2:10:31He's right now in a jacket.
2:10:32Sometimes he looks terrible.
2:10:33He looks horrible.
2:10:34It's unfortunate.
2:10:35It's a good thing.
2:10:37It's a good thing.
2:11:06bad turn we're going to have to do that because uh i screwed up the negotiations by attacking
2:11:47Bob talked me into the demonstration they planned for tomorrow.
2:11:51It's not developing much, but it's easier to say that we'll give everything.
2:11:58We're going to be together.
2:11:59And if we see blood, we might have them together.
2:12:06We have some people going up together.
2:12:09They're going to be together.
2:12:10Why not take, well, there will be one there, except
2:12:15or we put it up.
2:12:17It's being taken up by the councilor and that peace group.
2:12:23Well, they are.
2:12:23They're demonstrating up there.
2:12:24So get the goddamn plan.
2:12:25Now, that's what I'm saying.
2:12:26So I'm going to tell you.
2:12:28We spent a little money on the reports of people for this one.
2:12:35So let's do it.
2:12:37I don't know what kind of people.
2:12:51I don't want to do it here because we welcome this public attention to give it to you.
2:12:59If we did, then as of an hour ago, we didn't even assemble the people we were supposed to start assembling.
2:13:06They're not quite there.
2:13:07And around the country, the bullets are very, very powerful.
2:13:13I said to you earlier, I...
2:13:21It's closer to an idol in the United States and all that, but you didn't get the subtle effect in the country.
2:13:26Subtle, absolutely.
2:13:27You know, we screened this president very, very hard to find events that we could dramatize the decline in crime rate in the district and have a little policing, and it just doesn't mean it's very good.
2:13:42But you're a association of movement, and it stands.
2:13:47It's helped me a lot in front of students.
2:13:50Just one week that we meet, and I talk to them.
2:13:52And I take part in a meeting with you, which is not much right now, but it's all about now.
2:13:58But I think three, when you say that I made a man, and I want to walk that man, I think that got him across.
2:14:05Hopefully not all three of them.
2:14:22Because the FBI had a second in people's minds, by the imagery from that.
2:14:26That was extreme the world.
2:14:28They did it.
2:14:29It appeared, as I was watching the television, they did it without looking down once and that was my family house.
2:14:37I never did this, for that kind of thing.
2:14:39Right.
2:14:39To be able to do that.
2:14:40They had to live this beautiful life.
2:14:43So I thought that was very good.
2:14:46I had a closet that was 70 years old, to do that course.
2:15:06Oh, I remember how it was that I made it.
2:15:07I was sitting there the whole time.
2:15:09And we made that point of attrition.
2:15:14The one thing we regretted was something terrible was going to happen.
2:15:19You didn't.
2:15:20No, I don't.
2:15:20Your identification was really the best and the perfect one.
2:15:25The question always got me into cryptic depth.
2:15:27Some of the stitches would come out and put the jack in or something.
2:15:30Jack in.
2:15:35A decent man who built an agency, and in all these years there wasn't a single case of agent corruption.
2:15:43A crazy mover.
2:15:45Now you see Kennedy crazy too.
2:15:48Kennedy?
2:15:48Kennedy.
2:15:49All of that shit.
2:15:51Musky.
2:15:51And yet, I mean, hypocrisy, it makes you ill, because they've been raving about it being a fascist.
2:15:56I don't know why they didn't say anything to the government.
2:15:59No.
2:16:00No.
2:16:00The government made no statement.
2:16:05Well, we've had our differences, different than some of the things that he did.
2:16:09So, he was an honest, dedicated, alert, and great contribution to that business.
2:16:18A lot of people look at it.
2:16:19I'm still looking at it, but I'm coming down to this point.
2:16:22It's not that important.
2:16:23I mean, I'm going to have to read it and finish it.
2:16:26But I think the point is this.
2:17:06that phone came through very well.
2:17:10And they must be feeling it because it's the only person in the room.
2:17:17The man is always going to realize the reaction that he's going to throw at the person.
2:17:26Is it against the type of reaction?
2:17:28What is the situation?
2:17:29I'm curious.
2:17:31Are people really...
2:17:31I think they're moved by it, Mr. Woodman, because all
2:17:39I didn't have it on.
2:17:40Yes, and they were proud of it.
2:17:42Most people are proud of it.
2:17:44Most people think they're a lot better than they are.
2:17:50Yeah, I'll tell that.
2:17:52But that's free decor.
2:17:53People are proud of it, and I think the average American is proud of it.
2:17:58They don't consider it repressive.
2:18:02Why are you tapping on any solution?
2:18:06crime, that what you're doing, absolutely, they want criminals shot in the mouth.
2:18:12It has, it has an effect, of course.
2:18:16Editorials are going to, according to all the things that they were writing about,
2:18:35Oh
2:19:07something that continues to report a very, very violent issue.
2:19:14Propaganda has increased among the Indian members of the Democrats.
2:19:19The Senate has got a new reaction.
2:19:25It's really not necessary.
2:19:44Yeah, it's what people were thinking.
2:19:48So I didn't want to do this.
2:20:21If they think the bombing is going to go before the bombings, if they think that this will lead to negotiations, whatever the... See, it may not.
2:20:30The thing is, the bombing may not bring negotiations.
2:20:54Okay.
2:20:57Let's see.
2:20:58Oh, they, they know very well from what they want to see.
2:21:37It's hard to think that they can iraq away.
2:21:39So don't be the least afraid of your stuff.
2:21:44The stock market, one of the 10 points, and follow the lightning on it.
2:21:49It's the war.
2:21:50One of the 10 points by the end of the day, I remember, you know, it'd be the least of stuff.
2:21:58And they call us.
2:21:59They call us in the morning every day.
2:22:08the dam, then go down to 900.
2:22:10It'll come up.
2:22:12It's going to go up again.
2:22:15It closed down once.
2:22:16It closed once again.
2:22:22Where is it now?
2:22:22But you know, every other economic indicator
2:22:41It's actually the biggest one in history.
2:22:43I have some thanks for getting ready to have a year.
2:22:46I mean, I'm one of those people who's at least a bit involved.
2:22:51I mean, I'm involved.
2:23:07And the media closed down.
2:23:35They may lose.
2:23:37I mean, the media may lose on this.
2:23:42But we still have a lot of people who can do it.
2:23:55Thank you.
2:23:57Thank you.
2:23:59Thank you.
2:24:00Thank you.
2:24:22I know what some of you think.
2:24:26Some people say people will applaud him.
2:24:29He's got a very good view of the country.
2:24:34I suppose Harris will be a better barometer here in one second.
2:24:39He'll give you more of the peace.
2:24:40He's more so as well.
2:24:42He also understands the yearning for peace.
2:24:59The point of this email is that you're more skilled at handling
2:25:31And you know what you have to be told.
2:25:35And you are doing everything to get peace, but not in any way.
2:25:40I think that's going to be great.
2:25:42I don't get people's expectations as great, but I'm trying to get everybody to know the expectations and be honest.
2:26:08I'm sure that would be very necessary.
2:26:52Yeah.
2:26:52Yeah.
2:27:19Increasingly.

Nixon & Colson on J. Edgar Hoover and Vietnam War

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