Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 339 › Conversation 339-015

Nixon & Kissinger on George Wallace and Assassination attempt

Monday, May 15, 1972 · 9:29 PM–9:35 PM ET · Old Executive Office Building · 5 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.Conversation339-015 on Tape 339 (tape position 02:44:31–02:49:17)StartMonday, May 15, 1972 at 9:29 PMEndMonday, May 15, 1972 at 9:35 PMRecording deviceOld Executive Office BuildingSourceNixon Library record for 339-015 ↗

President Nixon and Henry Kissinger discuss the security assessment and handling of the individual responsible for the attempted assassination of Governor George Wallace, who had occurred earlier that day. Nixon expresses concern regarding the potential for leaks and mismanagement, explicitly instructing Kissinger to withhold related information from Secretary of State William Rogers. The conversation focuses on ensuring the matter is handled securely and that the assailant’s radical background is contained without triggering the public scrutiny experienced during previous political assassinations.

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On May 15, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:29 pm to 9:35 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 339-015 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 339-15
Date: May 15, 1972
Time: 9:29-9:35 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Henry A. Kissinger.

[See Conversation No. 24-126]

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I'll have to call Lukash, the doctor, and I want to report to him as to what's going on on the street.
But keep right on.
Bye.
Yeah.
John, let me tell you my concern, which I'm sure you're keenly aware of.
The Kennedy thing was handled so badly, and everybody's doing more.
I don't want us to do this.
I want everybody to know that you did this on my own.
Get the best attorney you can get.
Get a good attorney, Tom.
You will.
Try it today.
And you're working with Judge Knight and Tom.
Just be on top of it, Tom.
Bye.
Yeah.
Henry, where are you?
At dinner.
Yeah, fine.
Well, this is one of those damn things, isn't it?
Well, he's a 22-year-old fellow from Milwaukee, and all this strange information, you know, and all that sort of thing.
I'm sure he's a radical, but what I mean is he's just confused about the African case and all that.
He's nuts.
He's crazy.
I think I did a very good thing going over to Cromwell to give protection to Ken.
I ordered, and I said, give protection also to that woman at the boat.
And I said, I'll get the protection.
In fact, they're Russians.
You take care of that.
I'm not worried about that.
Just don't submit it to Rogers.
Yeah, don't submit it to Rogers.
You don't want to.
All right, go ahead.
Now, with regard to Vietnam, you're sure that the Air Force is going to pound the hell out of them now when they want to hit an 1100, 1100-1200.
You're talking to me today, right?
Is that what you're saying?
Mm-hmm.
I haven't decided over here where to stand yet.
  • 024-124 9:23 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 9:23 pm to 9:24 pm.
  • 339-013 9:23 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:23 pm to 9:24 pm.
  • 024-125 9:25 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman talked on the telephone from 9:25 pm to 9:27 pm.
  • 339-014 9:25 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:25 pm to 9:27 pm.
  • 024-126 9:29 PM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone from 9:29 pm to 9:35 pm.
  • 024-127 9:35 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:35 pm and 9:36 pm.
  • 339-016 9:35 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:35 pm and 9:36 pm.
  • 024-128 9:36 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone from 9:36 pm to 9:39 pm.

Conversation 339-015, May 15, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/339-015 (accessed November 13, 2026).