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Start Date: 13-Jun-1972 4:17 PM

End Date: 13-Jun-1972 5:38 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:15:35

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:33:22

342a.mp3

342b.mp3

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342d.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:17 pm to 5:38 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 342-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 342-9

Date: June 13, 1972
Time: 4:17-5:38 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Charles W. Colson.


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     Vietnam
          -George S. McGovern
                -Statement
                      -North Vietnam
                      -Washington Post
          -Press conferences
                -Televised coverage
          -The President's previous meeting with Leonid I. Brezhnev
               -Private Talks
                -John C. Stennis
                -US position
                -Nickolai V. Podgorny's trip to Hanoi
                      -Purpose
                      -Outcome

     Henry A. Kissinger
         -Peking Trip
               -Forthcoming announcement
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                                                    Conv. No. 342-9 (cont.)

                -Meeting with Chou En-lai

Vietnam
     -Negotiations
          -US position
     -Bombing, mining
          -Impact
          -North Vietnamese offensive
                -An Loc
     -US public opinion
          -Support for the President’s policies
     -Negotiations
          -Timing
     -Democratic Convention
          -Platform
          -Negotiations
                -Public opinion poll
                -Effect on Democrats
     -Television appearance by President
          -Timing
     -Michael J. Mansfield’s statements
          -The President’s view

Arms control
    -Kissinger's briefing
          -Trip to Peking
                -Vietnam
                -Timing
    -Armed Services Committee
    -Foreign Relations Committee
    -State Department
    -Defense Department
    -Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
    -Kissinger’s role
    -William P. Rogers
    -Melvin R. Laird
    -Gerald C. Smith
    -Disarmament
    -Kissinger’s briefing
          -Clark MacGregor
          -Question session
          -Length
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                                                        Conv. No. 342-9 (cont.)

     -President's schedule
           -Mexican President Luis Alvarez Echeverria
     -Kissinger’s briefing
           -Credit for arms agreement
                 -White House
                 -State Department
                 -Arms Control Agency
           -Congressional reaction
                 Stennis
                 -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
                 -J. William Fulbright
                 -Jackson
                 -Hugh Scott
           -Media reaction
                 -Television cameras
                 -Networks
                       -Kissinger
                 -Length of briefing
                 -Wire stories
                       -Colson’s view
                 -Arrangements
                 -Camera work
                 -Options for setting
                       -President

Use of administration officials
     -The President’s view
          -Haldeman
     -Richard G. Kleindienst
          -Press conference
     -John N. Mitchell
     -Kleindienst
          -The President’s view
          -Public statements
                -Busing
                -Law and order issue

Discrimination and private clubs
     -Blacks
     -Jews
           -Hillcrest Country Club, Los Angeles
           -Woodmont Club
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                                                        Conv. No. 342-9 (cont.)

     -Italians
     -Poles
     -Knights of Columbus
     -Masons
     -Kiwanis Clubs
     -Masons

Role of Kleindienst
     -Public statements
     -Bar associations
           -Appearances
     -Busing
           -Ohio
           -Pittsburgh
     -Higher education bill
           -Moratorium
     -Boston

Vice President Spiro T. Agnew's schedule
     -Republican fund raisers
     -Ethnic groups
           -Michael P. Balzano
           -Italians
           -Poles
           -Lithuanians
           -Poles
     -Arrangement
     -Commentary on busing

Busing
     -John D. Ehrlichman's speeches
     -Televised formats
     -Presentation of administration position

Major issues
    -International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT] case

Vietnam
     -McGovern
         -Vietnam policy
              -Amnesty
              -The President’s view
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                                   Tape Subject Log
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                                                             Conv. No. 342-9 (cont.)

               -Raymond A. Gallagher
                    -Concerned Veterans Committee
                           -Letter
                           -Funding
                           -Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW]
                           -Activities
                           -Funding
               -Vietnam policy
                    -Hubert H. Humphrey
               -Jay Rosenman [sp?]
               -Al Barkan
               -Publicity of McGovern's opponent
               -Accusations
                    -Patrick J. Buchanan
                    -Mitchell
                    -Robert H. Finch
                    -Agnew
                    -Robert C. Dole
                    -Barry M. Goldwater
         -Positions
               -Republican response
                    -Amnesty
                    -Letters
         -North Vietnamese


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         -Campaign practices
             -Edmund S. Muskie
             -Speeches
             -McGovern
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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                                                          Conv. No. 342-9 (cont.)

                - Robert [Surname unintelligible]
                -Mitchell
                -Unions
                     -Balzano
                     -Labor support
                -Mitchell
                     -Haldeman


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    Congressional leaders
        -Gerald R. Ford
        -Robert C. (“Bob”) Wilson
        -Everett M. Dirksen
        -Lyndon B. Johnson
        -Dirksen


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    Personnel
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                                                          Conv. No. 342-9 (cont.)

         -Jeb Stuart Magruder
         -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
         -Leadership needs
         -Murray M. Chotiner
         -Magruder
               -Robert C. Odle, Jr.


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         -Kenneth W. Clawson
         -Mitchell
         -Decision-making
              -Robert S. McNamara
              -Mitchell
              -Philosophy
         -McGovern watch
              -Secret service
              -Victor Lasky
              -Theodore H. White


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         -Republican campaign funds reporting
              -Mitchell
              -Bryce N. Harlow
              -Colson
              -Bob [Surname unknown]
              -Dwayne O. Andreas
              -Jeno F. Paulucci
              -[Forename unknown] Ellsworth
                   -Sources

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         -Issues of McGovern's campaign
               -Defense
               -Amnesty
               -POWs
               -Amnesty
                    -Abraham Lincoln
                        -Policy

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                                                          Conv. No. 342-9 (cont.)


     The President's veto of legislation
          -Buchanan
          -Water bill
               -Cost
               -Mitchell's support
               -Cost
               -Jobs

     Congressional spending
         -Limits
         -Social Security
         -Water bill
               -Veto
         -Education bill
               -Veto
         -Welfare
               -House Resolution [H R] 1
               -The President's veto
               -Elliot L. Richardson
               -The President’s view

The President talked with Haldeman.

[Conversation No. 342-9A]

[See Conversation No. 25-61]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Congress
         -Fulbright
         -Jackson
         -Welfare bill
              -President's veto
              -Herman E. Talmadge amendments
                    -Los Angeles
              -George P. Shultz
                    -Position
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           -Organization
           -Magruder
           -Haldeman

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 4:17 pm.

     The President's schedule
          -Briefcase

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:38 pm.

     1972 Campaign
          -Organization
               -Problems
               -Reliability

     Rogers
         -Kissinger

     Press conference

The President and Colson left at 5:38 pm.
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