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Start Date: 19-Jul-1972 2:42 PM

End Date: 19-Jul-1972 5:53 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.Bull, Stephen B.[Unknown person(s)]Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Ziegler, Ronald L.Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

348-010a.mp3

348-010b.mp3

NARA Description:

On July 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, Stephen B. Bull, unknown person(s), H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:42 pm to 5:53 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 348-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 348-10

Date: July 19, 1972
Time: 2:42 pm - 5:53 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Charles W. Colson.

     Telephone call

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 2:42 pm.

     The President's schedule
          -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                -Buzzer on telephone

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:27 pm.


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     The President's call to Francis A. (“Frank”) Sinatra
          -Entertainment for Giulio Andreotti visit
                -Scheduling
                -John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts
                -White House
                      -South Lawn

     Entertainment for Andreotti
          -White House
               -Television

     Sinatra
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          -Relationship with Kennedy
          -Previous trip to White House
          -Relationship with Vice President Spiro T. Agnew

     Colson's forthcoming call to Agnew
          -The President's call to Sinatra
                -Purpose
                     -Congratulations on testimony


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An unknown person talked with the President at an unknown time between 2:42 pm and 3:27
pm.

[Conversation No. 348-10A]

     Call to someone
           -Buzzer system

[End of telephone conversation]
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    Watergate
        -John D. Ehrlichman
        -Jeb Stuart Magruder
               -John N. Mitchell
        -Judge
        -Colson's summons in civil case
        -E. Howard Hunt
                -View of previous activities
                -Possible testimony
                -Relationship to William F. Buckley, Jr.
                -Brown University
                    -Henry A. Kissinger
                -Daniel Ellsberg
                -Criminal case
                    -Compared to civil case
                         -Democratic National Committee
                         -Grand jury
        -Magruder
               -Ehrlichman
        -L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III
        -Politics
        -Burglars
               -Actions
               -Possible sentences
        -Gray
        -Democrats' portrayal
               -Hunt, G[eorge] Gordon Liddy, Magruder
                    -White House
        -Magruder
               -Haldeman
               -Herbert G. Klein
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    -Vietnam Veterans against the War
    -Charges
    -Pardons
          -Timing
          -Grounds
    -Corruption in administration
          -McGovern
    -International Brotherhood of Teamsters
    -Cubans' motives
          -New York Times story
                -Tad Szulc
          -McGovern
          -Money
    -As an issue
    -The President's forthcoming press conference
          -International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT] and big business
          -Labor support for the President
                -Frank L. Rizzo
                -“Mattie” Ryan
                    -Boston
    -Washington Post

News summary
    -White House staff work
    -Contents
          -Indexing
                -Lead stories
                -National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC], Columbia Broadcasting
                    System [CBS], American Broadcasting Corporation [ABC]
          -Lyndon K. (“Mort”) Allin
                -Possible role
    -Contents
    -Distribution
          -Washington Post

Watergate
    -The President’s request of Colson
          -California
    -Finance Committee
          -Republican National Committee
               -Robert J. Dole
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
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      Watergate
          -Staff's feelings toward Magruder and Mitchell
                 -Dole


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      Cabinet breakfast meeting

Haldeman talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 3:27 pm and 3:45 pm.

[Conversation No. 348-10C]

      Cabinet breakfast meeting
          -Timing

[End of telephone call]
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Cabinet meeting
    -Arrangements
    -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
          -Budget

The President's schedule
     -Armand Hammer

Stock market
     -Hammer
          -John B. Connally's comment
     -McGovern's capital gains proposal
     -Borrowing money with stock as security

The President schedule
     -Connally
     -Cabinet meeting
     -Colson, Haldeman, Clark MacGregor
     -Connally
     -William E. Timmons

Labor relations
    -George P. Shultz, James D. Hodgson
    -Harry Bridges
    -Teamsters
    -The President’s schedule
           -Shultz, Hodgson
           -John D. Ehrlichman
    -Shultz
    -Kenneth W. Clawson
           -Story
           -Conversation with Colson
           -Teamsters
           -Vote
                -Robert Holmes
                     -James R. (“Jimmy”) Hoffa
                -Einar O. Mahon
                -Harold J. Gibbons
           -Forthcoming conversation with Colson
    -Victor Riesel
           -Statement on Meany
           -Forthcoming conversation with Colson
                -The President's golf game
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                         -Frank E. Fitzsimmons
                 -Golf
                      -Unknown people
                         -Texas Tech University
                         -San Francisco 49ers

Colson left at 3:45 pm.

      NBC's forthcoming All-Star game coverage
         -[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
                -American League
         -Frank F. Manckiewicz
                -National League
                -McGovern


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      The President's speech to the American Legion
           -Length
           -US defense issues
                  -Amnesty
           -Political rhetoric
                  -Use of words “Democrat” and “Republican”
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
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    Agnew
        -Haldeman's conversation with Mitchell
        -The President's forthcoming conversation with Connally

    Watergate
        -The White House response
              -The President’s talk with Mitchell [?]
        -Bart Porter
              -Grand jury testimony July 19, 1972
                   -Effect
                       -Magruder
                       -Mitchell
        -Magruder
        -John W. Dean, III
        -Mitchell
        -Henry E. Petersen
              - White House staff
        -Ehrlichman's view
              -Democratic National Convention
        -Magruder
              -The President’s view
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     The President's call to Sinatra
          -The President's call to Frank L. Rizzo
                -View of law enforcement
          -Testimony before congressional committee
          -Plans for Andreotti visit
                -White House
                      -East Room
                           -Television
                -Timing
                -Kennedy Center
                -Farewell performance
                -News conference
                -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 4:10 pm..

     Weather
         -California

     Vietnam negotiations
          -Kissinger
                -Paris
          -The President's conversation with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
          -Richard M. Helms, Haig, Kissinger
                -Possible briefings for McGovern
                     -Haig’s talk with Fred Dutton
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     1972 campaign
         -Meany's statement
              -Support for the President or McGovern
              -Daniel L. Schorr

     News leads
         -Kissinger, American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations
               [AFL-CIO] endorsement vote, Egyptian expulsion of Soviet advisers

     Teamsters
         -Washington Post story
               -Katharine L. Graham
         -Franklin D. Roosevelt's political speech (“Fala Speech”) of September 23, 1944

     McGovern
        -Newsmen's views
              -Policies
                   -National defense
                   -Compared to Hubert H. Humphrey

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 4:10 pm.

     Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:33 pm.

     McGovern
        -Newsmen's views
              -Democratic Party
              Treatment by campaign people
              -Mankiewicz
              -Pierre Salinger
        -Mankiewicz and Salinger
              -Treatment of press
                   -John F. Kennedy

The President left at an unknown time after 4:10 pm.

Haldeman talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 4:10 and 5:33 pm.

[Conversation No. 348-10B]

     Baseball
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          -David N. Parker

[End of telephone conversation]

     All Star game
          -David Eisenhower's role
          -Mankiewicz

     Weather

The President entered at an unknown time before 5:33 pm.

     The President's press relations
          -1968 campaign
                -The President's press relations
                     -Arguments
                          -Patrick J. Buchanan
                          -Douglas L. Hallett
                          -Unavailability, staff hostility, dullness
                     -Bias toward Humphrey
                -Compared with 1972
                     -Possible anti-Nixon bias by press
                          -The President's accomplishments in office
                          -McGovern
                          -Press conferences
          -Possible press conferences
          -Confidence
          -John A. Scali's memorandum
                -Attacks on press
          -Monday magazine
          -Contacts with the President
                -Air Force One
                -Wall Street Journal
                -Radio
                -Social events
                -Press conferences
                -Possible changes
          -Contacts with press by the White House staff
                -Ehrlichman, Haldeman, Kissinger
                -MacGregor
                -Connally
                -The President’s schedule
                     -Interviews
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                -Associated Press [AP]
                -Wall Street Journal
     -Kissinger
           -Comparison with Ehrlichman
                -John Hart
           -Columnists
           -Walter L. Cronkite, Jr., John Chancellor, David Brinkley, [Arnold] Eric
                Sevareid
           -ABC
                -Harry Reasoner, Howard K. Smith, Thomas E. Jarriel
           -Groups
                -CBS, NBC, ABC
     -Ehrlichman
     -Haldeman
     -Kissinger
           -On the record compared to off the record
     -Connally
           -Press conferences
                -Democrats
           -Cronkite
     -Kissinger
           -Marvin L. and Bernard Kalb, Chalmers Roberts, Murrey Marder, Joseph
                C. Kraft
           -Joseph W. and Stewart J.O. Alsop, Rowland Evans
     -Cronkite, Chancellor, Smith, Reasoner, Brinkley, Dan Rather, Herbert E.
           Kaplow, Richard G. Valeriani, Robert B. Semple, Jr., unknown person,
           James J. Kilpatrick, Jr., unknown people, Helen A. Thomas, Stewart M.
           Hensley, Evans
     -Herb Kaplow, Frank Cormier, Richard Valeriani
     -Los Angeles Times
     -Ehrlichman
-The President's press contacts
     -Press conferences
           -Oval Office
                -AP
           -Television
           -Cronkite
           -Timing
                -Republican National Convention
                -California
           -Social event
           -Spontaneity
                -Cronkite
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                    -Eugene V. Risher
                    -Frank Cormier
                    -Pace of changes
                    -Off the record
                         -Thomas
         -Western White House
               -Republican National Convention
         -Kissinger, Haldeman, Ehrlichman
         -Klein, Robert H. Finch
         -MacGregor
               -On the record
         -Klein, Finch, Donald H. Rumsfeld
         -Issues
               -Editorial boards

    The President's schedule
         -Vietnam issue


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ZIEGLER LEFT AT 5:33 PM.


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    Watergate
        -Magruder
              -Forthcoming meeting July 19, 1972 with Mitchell and Haldeman
              -Cover-up
              -Possible indictment
                   -Effects
              -Hugh W. Sloan,Jr.
        -Porter
              -Testimony July 19, 1972
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                -Role at the Committee to Re-elect the President
          -Mitchell
                -Compared to Magruder and Porter
                -Possible subpoena
          -Grand jury's interests
                -Colson
                     -Civil suit
                -John Ehrlichman
                     -Hunt's testimony about Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
          -Washington Post
          -L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III
          -Petersen
                -Opinion about Mitchell
          -Mitchell


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Haldeman left at 5:53 pm.
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