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Conversation 352-002

TapeTape 352StartWednesday, July 26, 1972 at 4:49 PMEndWednesday, July 26, 1972 at 4:59 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Rockefeller, Nelson A.Recording deviceOld Executive Office Building
AI Summary

President Richard Nixon and Nelson A. Rockefeller discussed political strategy and the performance of campaign surrogate Clark MacGregor ahead of the 1972 election cycle. The conversation addressed the status of the President's legislative agenda, specifically welfare reform efforts involving Senator Russell B. Long, as well as political climates in key states. Additionally, the two touched upon the financial instability of the Grumman aircraft company and the potential for federal intervention via the Navy to prevent bankruptcy.

Clark MacGregor1972 Presidential CampaignWelfare ReformGrumman AircraftDefense ProcurementRussell B. Long
AudioNARA Description

On July 26, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Nelson A. Rockefeller met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:49 pm to 4:59 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 352-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 352-2

Date: July 26, 1972
Time: 4:49 pm - 4:59 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President talked with Nelson A. Rockefeller.

[See Conversation No. 27-86; one item has been withdrawn]

     Clark MacGregor

     Opening of new satellite system, July 26, 1972
         -The President's conversation with Golda Meir

     MacGregor
        -Performance

                                      (rev. Mar-02)

John N. Mitchell
     -Speaking abilities
          -Comparison with MacGregor

Someone as spokesman
    -New York

The President’s schedule
     -Miami Convention
     -California
           -Possible forthcoming meeting with Rockefeller

Rockefeller’s schedule
    -Minnesota
          -Hubert H. Humphrey
    -Ohio
    -Pennsylvania
    -California
    -New York

MacGregor
   -Optimism
         -Compared to Rockefeller
   -Republicans in House, Senate
         -Negativism

Meetings with local and state officials
    -Attitudes

The President's programs
     -Welfare reform
          -Passage through Congress
     -Russell B. Long
          -Amendments to programs
     -Modifications

An aircraft [F-14]
     -Purchase through Navy
     -Defense Department
     -Grumman aircraft
            -Threat of bankruptcy
                 -Nassau County

                                        (rev. Mar-02)
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

Hello?
I understand that you were very pleased with Clark McGregor, and I guess, well, right, right.
I was in with, let's see, oh, I think I was talking to, oh, but all people go and hang around the phone.
That's not a lot.
But tell me about climate.
That's what's important.
How do you do it?
Let me say, I haven't told you about that, but I was delighted to find that you were trying to accept that.
We think that will...
He really did.
That's great.
Great, great, great.
Yeah.
I know.
Sure.
Yeah.
case.
Paul works hard.
Anyway, that's what we're going to try.
Right?
They're always tough.
That's right.
Well, good to talk to you.
Yeah, go ahead.
About the aircraft?
Yeah, I talked about it.
What do you give?
Advice or something else?
Yeah.
for the Navy.
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