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Start Date: 12-Sep-1972 2:35 PM

End Date: 12-Sep-1972 4:28 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Ziegler, Ronald L.Monzon, Zosimo T.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

359-009.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 12, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Zosimo T. Monzon met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:35 pm to 4:28 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 359-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 359-9

Date: September 12, 1972
Time: 2:35 pm - 4:28 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.


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            Personnel
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                 -Eugene P. Wigner [?]
                     -Unknown person
                 -Thomas H. Kuchel
                     -George A. Murphy
                     -Clark MacGregor
                     -Ambassadorial post
                         -Mexico


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Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 2:45 pm.

             William L. Taub
                 -Fred Graham's story
                 -Identity
                     -James R. (“Jimmy”) Hoffa
                 -Film about the People's Republic of China [PRC], Mao’s China
                     -Story about the President
                           -Authenticity
                           -Allen J. Ellender's film
                           -Trip to the PRC and the Soviet Union
                           -Henry A. Kissinger
                               -Unknown person
                 -Secret Service

             Tennis
                -Women's tennis
                -Press story
                -Philadelphia
                -Georgetown
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                  -Tennis balls
                      -John V. Lindsay

              Press issues
                  -Watergate as agenda item for meeting
                       -Ziegler’s recent response
                       -Richard G. Kleindienst
                       -Lawsuits


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Ziegler left at 2:53 pm.


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              Press story
                  -Frank L. Rizzo’s statement
                  -The President’s view
                  -International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT] case
                       -The President’s concern
                  -R. Sargent Shriver
                  -[Earl L. Butz]
                  -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew


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          White House staff
             -Handling of correspondence
                 -Roland L. Elliott
                 -The President’s view
                 -Raymond K. Price, Jr. role
                      -Use
                 -Elliott
                 -Unknown woman

          Visitors to the White House
              -Presents from the President to foreign visitors
              -Ashtrays
              -Coin collection
                    -Dwight D. Eisenhower dollar


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          Issues
              -Administration response
                  -Butz
                  -Revenue sharing
                  -Government reorganization
                  -Domestic Council
              -Presidential image
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                  -US Postal Service
                  -Revenue sharing
              -John D. Ehrlichman

          US foreign policies
              -Position of the President as leader
              -PRC
                  -William P. Rogers
              -George S. McGovern
                  -Negotiations with Chou En-lai
                  -Leonid I. Brezhnev
                       -Kremlin
                  -Chou
                  -Japan
                  -Europe
                       -Common Market
              -Defense of US interests
                  -Speech on foreign policy and defense
                       -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.'s office
                            -Quotes
                       -Patrick J. Buchanan
                       -Type of lines
                       -William L. Safire
                       -Type of speech
                            -Foreign policy and national defense
                                 -US interests
                       -Television coverage of service branches
                            -Army
                            -Navy
                                 -Ships
                                 -Missiles
                       -Type of speech
                            -Idea of strength
                                 -Representing strength
                       -Preparation time
                       -Agnew


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            White House events
               -Agnew and Elinor I. (Judefind) Agnew
               -Blue Room reception
               -State Dining Room
               -East Room
               -Agnew
               -Meeting
                    -Haig
                        -Briefing
                             -Ehrlichman
                    -MacGregor
                        -Strategy session
                             -Campaign

            Briefings
                -John F. Osborne
                -Ehrlichman
                -Businessmen

            1972 election
                -New Majority
                -Congress

            Personnel
                -Government
                    -Confirmation
                    -State Department
                    -Department of Defense
                -National Park Service
                    -The President’s view
                         -Number
                             -Names
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White House Personnel
   -Dress code
       -Black compared with White
            -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
            -Ron Jackson
            -Rex W. Scouten
   -Social events
       -Unknown woman
       -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
   -Press and East Room social events
       -Constance M. Stuart
            -Liz Carpenter
       -Anne L. Armstrong
            -Idanell (Brill) (“Nellie”) Connally
       -Patricia R. Hitt
            -Haldeman’s role

Watergate
   -Democratic lawsuit
        -Republican countersuit
            -Depositions
                -Haldeman’s view

The media
    -William S. Paley
         -[Arthur R. Taylor]
    -Charles W. Colson
    -Attitude towards McGovern

Administration personnel
   -Military aides
        -Army
        -Navy
        -Coast Guard
        -Army
        -William R. Codus
             -John V. Brennan

Congressional relations
   -Gerald R. Ford and Hugh Scott
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                  -Scheduling


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          News conference
             -Timing
             -Watergate
                 -Robert J. Dole
                 -Possible reactions
                 -Timing
                 -The President's analysis
                      -Tone
             -Kissinger's schedule

          Watergate
             -Type of issue

          News conference
             -Timing
                 -The President's return trip from California
             -Frequency
             -Washington, DC


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The President left at an unknown time after 2:53 pm.

             [Pause]

The President entered at an unknown time before 4:28 pm.

             Transportation
                 -The President's conversation with Robert H. Taylor
                 -The Presidential limousine
                     -The President’s conversation with Robert Taylor
                     -Delivery to White House
                          -Haldeman’s view
                     -Construction
                          -Moon roof design
                              -Security
                              -Bullet proof shield
                                   -Protection
                              -Haldeman’s view
                                   -Possible changes


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Zosimo T. Monson entered at an unknown time after 3:55 pm.
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            Documents
               -Residence
               -Helicopter
               -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
               -Oval Office
                   -Folder

Monson left at an unknown time before 4:28 pm.

            The President's schedule
                -New York
                     -John R. (“Tex”) McCrary
                         -Mrs. Nixon
                -Israel Philharmonic Orchestra
                     -Washington, DC
                     -Celebration of Israel
                     -Zubin Mehta
                     -Gustav Mahler and Felix Mendelssohn
                     -Kissinger
                     -Celebration of Jewish heritage
                         -American heritage
                     -The President's possible appearance
                         -Reception
                              -Event at Israeli embassy
                              -Other events
                              -Tone
                         -Edmund S. Muskie's attendance
                     -Yitzhak Rabin
                         -Presidential box
                     -Moshe Dayan
                -Opening session of the International Monetary Fund [IMF]
                     -Date
                         -Presidential reception in White House

            Press relations
                -United Press International [UPI] reception at White House
                     -Herbert G. Klein

            The President's schedule
                -Mark Spitz
                    -Presidential telegram and certificate
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                  -Swim coach for Spitz
                  -Steve Clark
                      -Conversation with Spitz
                           -Visit between Spitz and the President
                           -Spitz's political background and current position
                  -The President's attempted telephone call to Spitz
                  -Experience and age
                  -Gold medals
                      -Number
              -Swearing-in of unnamed female judge
              -National Heritage day
                  -Date
                  -Proclamation
                      -Signing ceremony by the President
                           -Press coverage
                  -Competing groups
                  -The President's previous experiences
                  -Congressional act


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          Sports
              -Spitz
                  -The President’s view
                       -Jews
              -Bobby Fisher
              -Spitz
              -Arthur R. Ashe, Jr.
                  -Tennis match
                       -Score
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            Agnew’s schedule
               -Dinners
                   -The President’s experience as vice president

Haldeman left at 4:28 pm.