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Start Date: 8-Sep-1972 3:44 PM

End Date: 8-Sep-1972 4:40 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")[Unknown person(s)]Bull, Stephen B.Stans, Maurice H.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

360-009a.mp3

360-009b.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), Stephen B. Bull, and Maurice H. Stans met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:44 pm to 4:40 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 360-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 360-9

Date: September 8, 1972
Time: 3:44 pm - 4:40 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

         John D. Ehrlicnman’s son
           -Graduation from law school

         Public relations
          -Press secretary’s [Richard Daugherty’s] statement
                    -George S. McGovern
                        -Ronald L. Ziegler

         Polls
          -Results
                     -Support for the President
                         -Categories
                             -Blue collar workers
                     -George H. Gallup

         1972 campaign practices
          -The President’s policies
                  -Haldeman’s view
                      -Responses to McGovern
                           -Clark MacGregor
                      -The People's Republic of China [PRC]
                      -World Leaders
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                       -White House guest lists
                       -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
                           -Role

         Issues
           -Vietnam War
                   -McGovern’s charges
                        -Ziegler’s responses
           -George H.W. Bush
                   -Haldeman’s conversations
                   -Possible speech on foreign policy
                        -Responses to McGovern
           -Unknown person
                   -Possible candidacy for Senate
           -Crime
                   -Ehrlichman and Egil G. (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
           -Presentation of issues
                   -The President’s role
                        -The president’s view
                   -John B. Connally
                   -The President's schedule

         The president’s schedule
          -Forthcoming meeting
                   -Alexander F. Douglas-Home
                       -Dinner
                       -William P. Rogers
          -White House dinners for Home and Andrei A. Gromyko
                   -Size
                       -The President’s view
                   -Blue Room
                   -Previous administrations

The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 3:44 pm and 4:00
pm.

[Conversation No. 360-9A]

         The President's schedule
          -Stephen B. Bull
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[End of telephone conversation]

Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:44 pm.

          Instructions for Bull
            -Franklin D. Roosevelt
                     -Birthdate
            -Theodore R. Roosevelt
                     -Age at death

Bull left and Maurice H. Stans entered at 4:00 pm.

          Greetings

          The President's Executive Office Building office
           -Seating arrangements
           -Stans’ previous meetings with the President
                    -Oval Office
           -The President’s work habits
                    -Oval Office
                    -Previous Presidents

          Forthcoming Cabinet briefing
           -Thomas W. Evans
                   -John N. Mitchell
           -Anne Armstrong and Evans
                   -Connally
                   -Cabinet officials
                   -Robert J. Dole
                   -Women
                       -Barbara H. Franklin
                       -Armstrong

          1972 campaign finances
           -General Accounting Office [GAO] report
                   -Filing, September 11, 1972
           -George S. McGovern
                   -Contributions
                        -Henry Kimmelman
                             -The President’s view
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An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 4:00 pm.

         Refreshment

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 4:35 pm.

         1972 campaign finances
          -Kimmelman
                  -Dwayne D. Andrews

         US–Soviet Union grain deal
          -Recent telephone call from Thomas C. (:Teddy”) Gleason

         1972 campaign finances
          -Andreas
                   -Telephone conversation with Kimmelman
                        -Herbert H. Humphrey contribution
          -Contributors to McGovern
                   -Stewart R. Mott
          -Legislation
          -McGovern’s conversation with Andreas
          -Radio advertising
                   -Costs
          -Public relations
                   -Media
                   -Public mood
          -Committee to Re-elect the President [CRP]
                   -Expenditures
                        -Television [TV], radio, newspaper
                        -Billboards
                        -Democratic charges
                             -Responses
                                 -Direct mail, telephone calls
                                   -TV
                                 -McGovern
          -Contributors
                   -McGovern
          -Fundraising efforts
          -Expenditures
                   -Personnel
                        -Lawyers
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            -Use of telephone
                -Precinct workers
                     -Registration
            -Newspaper advertising
                -Editorial support
 -Pledges
          -Small contributors
 -John N. Mitchell's role
 -Lawrence F. O’Brien, Jr. suit
          -Robert J. Dole's role
          -Watergate burglers
          -CRP
 -The President's role
          -Fundraising dinners
               -California
                   -The President’s role
                   -San Francisco
                        -David Packard
               -Los Angeles, New York
               -Chicago
                   -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
 -Amounts
          -Public relations
 -Public relations
          -Issues
               -McGovern
          -Radio
          -October 10, 1972
          -Use of TV
               -Duration
               -Celebrities
               -Possible contributions
               -Celebrities

The President's schedule
 -Hugh W. Sloan, Jr.
          -Previous meeting with the President
          -Forthcoming testimony
          -Previous meeting
               -Deborah (Murray) Sloan
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Support for the President
 -Catholics
          -Letter to Stans from nun
               -Jews
               -Democratic voters
               -Reaction to McGovern's supporter’s lifestyle

House building industry
   -Audio tape for National Association of Homebuilders convention and
   fundraising dinners
         -Compared to videotape
              -McGovern
              -Public domain
              -George W. Romney
 -Possible message from the President
         -Videotape
 -Closed circuit

1972 campaign issues
 -McGovern
 -The President’s political career
 -Watergate
         -International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT]
 -War and peace
 -Crime
 -Taxes
 -Prices
 -Watergate
         -Washington, DC establishment
         -Public view
         -The President's future schedule
              -Hugh Sloan
                   -Forthcoming testimony
                   -Morale
         -Hugh Sloan
              -Care of individuals involved
                   -Employment
                   -Financial assistance
                        -Post-1972 election
                           -Testimony
                        -Deborah Sloan
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                     -Press coverage
                         -Republican National Convention
                              -Requests for tickets
                              -CRP
                         -Jack N. Anderson
                       -Leaks
                         -Richard (“Dick”) Tuck
                         -Use of surveillance
                              -1968 election
                                  -[Joe McGinniss, The Selling of the President]
                                    -Leonard Garment

          The president’s schedule
           -Republican storefront campaign headquarters

          1972 campaign
           -Stans's work
                    -Business leaders
                    -Telephone calls
                        -Business leaders
                        -Labor officials
                            -Frank E. Fitzsimmons
                            -Peter J. Brennan

          Stans’s future role
            -Post-1972 election
                     -Robert H. Finch

Stans left at 4:35 pm.

          Franklin D. Roosevelt and Theodore Roosevelt
            -Age at deaths
            -Recent movie

          The President's schedule
           -Walk from Executive Office Building to campaign headquarters

The President and Haldeman left at 4:40 pm.
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