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Conversation: 360-012

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Start Date: 11-Sep-1972 12:40 PM

End Date: 11-Sep-1972 1:45 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

360-012a.mp3

360-012b.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:40 pm to 1:45 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 360-012 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 360-12

Date: September 11, 1972
Time: 12:40 pm - 1:45 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Charles W. Colson.

          Colson’s schedule
           -Princeton University

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:40 pm.

          Refreshment

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 1:45 pm.


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
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[Duration: 32s        ]

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          Watergate
           -Strategy
                    -Republicans
                    -Committee to Re-elect the President [CRP]
           -Federal Bureau of investigation [FBI]
           -Colson's previous meeting
                    -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and Clark MacGregor
           -George S. McGovern
                    -Statements
                         -Possible response
                                 23

         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                         Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. Oct-06)

                  -Information source
-MacGregor’s view
        -McGovern’s charges
             -Tone
        -FBI
-Alfred C. Baldwin, III
        -Work for James W. McCord, Jr.
             -Information
-Colson’s view
        -McGovern’s charges
-Legal action
-MacGregor's future statement
        -McGovern, R. Sargent Shriver, Lawrence F. O'Brien, Jr.
             -Investigation
-Response
        -The President’s view
        -Maurice H. Stans
-McGovern
        -Possible effect
-Break-in
        -The President’s view
        -The President's role
        -Participants
             -The President’s view
        -John N. Mitchell
-Campaign support and contributions
        -The President’s view
             -The President’s conversation with Stans
             -John B. Connally
             -Campaign staff
-Legal action
        -Indictments
             -Alger Hiss case
-MacGregor
        -Response
             -The President’s instructions
-Robert J. Dole
        -Response
             -Letters, advertisements
                  -Common Cause
-New York Times, Washington Post
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            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                            Tape Subject Log
                              (rev. Oct-06)

 -Domestic policy staff
        -Use of offensive tactics
             -John D. Ehrlichman
             -The President’s view

Issues for 1972 election
  -The President’s view
  -Domestic issues
           -George P. Shultz
           -Welfare
                -The presdient’s view
           -John B. Connally
  -Public response
  -Watergate
           -Colson’s view
           -Charges
                -International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT]
                -Hiss case compensation
                -Five-percenter case
  -1960 election
           -Issues
  -1964 election
           -Lyndon B. Johnson
                -Barry M. Goldwater
                     -Robert D. (“Bobby”) Baker
                     -Walter W. Jenkins

1972 campaign
 -Responses to McGovern
         -MacGregor
         -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
         -Tax increases
             -The President’s view
             -Republican response
         -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
             -Welfare issue
             -The President’s view
             -The President's successor
                  -George Meany’s view
                  -Connally
 -Emphasis on New Majority theme
                                  25

          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                          Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. Oct-06)

        -Colson’s efforts
        -The President’s instructions
-Monday magazine
        -Articles
             -W. Ramsey Clark
                  -Viet Cong [VC]
-Foreign policy
        -William P. Rogers
             -Abram F. Chayes
                  -Transcript of conversation
                      -Release
                        -The President’s instructions
                      -Henry A. Kissinger, Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                      -Release of Pentagon Papers
                        -The President’s instructions
                      -Source
                        -William J. Porter
                        -Kenneth W. Clawson
                      -State Department cables
        -As issue
             -Vietnam, amnesty
                  -McGovern
                      -Public opinion
                        -Bombing, mining
                      -Prisoners of war [POWs]
                  -South Vietnam's future
                      -VC
                         -Coalition government
                      -Communist government
             -New York Daily News story
                  -Clawson
                  -David Kraslow
                  -Use of item [about Chayes]
                      -Joseph W. Alsop
                      -Kraslow
                        -Jews
                          -Kissinger
             -Jerry Green's column
             -Chayes's disavowal of story
                  -Newsweek
                      -Arnaud de Borchegrave
                                                26

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Oct-06)

                    -[David] Kenneth Rush's forthcoming press conference
                    -Leo Cherne
                    -Chayes's interview with de Borchegrave
                        -White House use of story
                             -Rogers
                    -Edmund S. Muskie
                        -Effect of charges
                    -McGovern's judgment
                        -US-Soviet Union grain deal
                             -Earl L. Butz's response to charges
                             -Reports
                                -Charges
                                -Response to McGovern
         -McGovern’s press conferences

        Credibility issues
         -Ehrlichman, Herbert G. Klein
         -The President
                   -News media
                        -The President’s view
         -McGovern
                   -Confidence issue
                        -Colson’s view
                        -The President


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[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 13m 43s    ]


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        1972 Olympic games in Munich, Germany
         -The President's previous telephone call to Chris Schenkel
         -National attitudes
                                           27

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                   Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. Oct-06)

                 -The President’s view
                 -Black athletes
                      -Reaction during playing of national anthem
                      -"Sugar" Ray Seales
                      -1968 Olympic Games incident
                 -International Olympic Committee
                 -US Olympic Committee
                      -Athlete’s action
                 -Athletes action characterized
                      -Blacks
                           -Reaction


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 2m 12s     ]


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        1972 campaign finances
         -McGovern
                 -Status
                 -The President's recent conversation with Stans
                 -Number of committees
                      -Robert J. Dole’s possible press conference,
                       September 12, 1972
                      -Compared to Republicans
                 -Financial discrepancies in McGovern campaign
                      -Analysis
                          -Dole’s possible press conference
                            -Charges of violations of Federal Election
                             Campaign Act
                          -Sources
                               -Colson’s conversation with Jay Lovestone
                                     28

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                            Tape Subject Log
                              (rev. Oct-06)

                         -Foreign governments
                           -South American governments
 -Watergate
        -Howard Hughes
        -Possible investigation

McGovern
 -Colson’s view
         -Self-righteousness
         -Credibility
              -Press
 -Statement about support for Thomas F. Eagleton
 -Milton J. Shapp

The President's schedule
 -Pennsylvania
          -Shapp
               -The President’s view
               -Ernest P. Kline
                   -The President’s view
               -Unions
               -Walter H. Annenberg
          -Philadelphia Inquirer story
               -Report of the President's September 9, 1972 visit
                   -Photograph

Watergate
 -Handling of issue
          -Klein
          -Clark MacGregor
          -Investigation
          -Involvement
              -John N. Mitchell
          -Investigation
              -Whitaker Chambers-Alger Hiss confrontation, 1948
                   -Harry S. Truman, Thomas E. Dewey
                        -Action in campaign
                   -Cover-up
                        -Negative effect
 -MacGregor
          -Possible statement on disclosure
                                            29

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Oct-06)

                     -McGovern's source of information
                           -McGovern’s charges
                           -Secrecy
                               -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
         -Barry M. Goldwater's statement
                 -Campaign practices
                 -Herb
                 -1964 campaign
                     -Use of spies
                           -Nelson A. Rockefeller
                           -Cow Palace
                 -Politics
                     -Goldwater’s view
                 -Audience response


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[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 2m 14s     ]


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        Public relations
         -White House staff
                   -John A. Scali
                   -Klein, Ronald L. Ziegler, Clawson
                       -News media
         -US-Soviet Union grain deal
                   -Butz
                   -Response to McGovern
                       -Public reaction


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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Oct-06)

BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 59s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5

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          Watergate
           -Indictments
           -The President's involvement, administration's involvement
           -Press

          Media and press relations
           -The President’s view
           -1972 campaign

          The President's health

Colson left at 1:45 pm.