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Start Date: 14-Aug-1972 4:40 PM

End Date: 14-Aug-1972 5:15 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Ziegler, Ronald L.[Unknown person(s)]Butterfield, Alexander P.White House operatorHaig, Alexander M., Jr.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

362-022.mp3

NARA Description:

On August 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Ronald L. Ziegler, unknown person(s), Alexander P. Butterfield, White House operator, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:40 pm to 5:15 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 362-022 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 362-22

Date: August 14, 1972
Time: 4:40 pm - 5:15 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.


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             R. Sargent Shriver
                 -John Connally, Haldeman and William P. Rogers
                     -Attacks
                          -Shriver’s knowledge of Vietnam negotiations
                              -George E. Christian
                              -Henry A. Kissinger's trips to Paris
                                   -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 4:45 pm.
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          President's forthcoming acceptance speech
              -Amount of time in the President’s preparation

          Forthcoming press conference by Ziegler
              -Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW] and Department of
              Labor appropriations bill
              -Frank C. Carlucci
              -The President’s schedule
                  -Economic affairs
                  -Congress
                  -Paperwork
                      -Republican National Convention
                  -The President’s forthcoming acceptance speech
                  -Legislative matters
                      -Veto decisions
                  -Economic policy
                  -Congress
                  -Meetings with Kissinger
                      -Kissinger's forthcoming trip to South Vietnam
                      -The President's forthcoming acceptance speech
                  -The President’s return from Camp David
                      -Timing


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          Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
             -The President’s request for suggestions
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                      -The President’s forthcoming acceptance speech
                           -Speechwriters
                  -Forthcoming article
                      -New York Times Magazine
                      -Life
                      -Substance
                      -New York Times Magazine
                           -Readership compared with Life
                      -Interest
                           -The President’s second term
                      -Life
                           -Circulation, impact
                           -The President's preference
                      -New York Times Magazine
                           -Distribution
                      -Life

              The President's schedule
                  -Economic matters
                  -Legislative matters
                  -Meeting with Kissinger
                  -The President’s forthcoming acceptance speech

Ziegler left at 4:55 p.m.

              Federal firefighters
                  -Early retirement plan
                       -The President’s previous veto
                       -The President's decision
                            -Support for plan
                               -Charles W. Colson, William E. Timmons, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
                            -Request for veto
                                 -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger, Civil Service Commission,
                                 Department of Defense
                       -Costs
                       -The President's support
                            -Reasons
                                 -Timmons
                                 -Wage Board bill
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                                    -John D. Ehrlichman
                               -Gerald R. Ford
                       -The President’s decision
                           -Weinberger’s view

             Economy
                -Meat prices
                    Ehrlichman's report

Haldeman talked with an unknown person between 4:55 pm and 4:56 pm.

[Conversation No. 362-22A]

             Firefighters' bill
                  -Cole
                  -Ehrlichman
                  -The President’s signing

[End of telephone conversation]

             Shriver
                 -The President's view
                     -Knowledge of Paris negotiations
                         -Lyndon B. Johnson

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 4:56 pm.

             Telephone calls
                 -The President’s view

             Firefighters' bill
                  -Signing

             Unknown document
                -Rose Mary Woods

             Telephone calls
                 -Letters
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              Firefighters' bill

              Telephone calls

Butterfield left at 5:01 pm.

              Shriver
                  -Colson
                  -Vietnam
                      -Peace offers
                           -Newspaper coverage
                           -Shriver's knowledge
                                -Connally
                  -W[illiam] Averell Harriman - Cyrus R. Vance position
                      -Possible peace settlement
                  -Shriver's role in peace negotiations
                      -Johnson
                           -Connally
                           -Christian

The President talked with the White House operator at 5:02 pm.

[Conversation No. 362-22B]

[See Conversation No. 29-67]

[End of telephone conversation]

              The President’s forthcoming conversation with Haig

              Shriver
                  -Role in peace negotiations
                  -Kissinger
                      -France
                           -Possible conversation with ambassador
                      -Early role in peace negotiations
                  -Role in peace negotiations
                      -Connally
                      -Christian
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                     -Rogers
                         -Report
                         -Statement of August 14, 1972
                         -Rusk

             Watergate
                -Haldeman's meeting with John N. Mitchell
                     -John W. Dean, III
                     -Jeb Stuart Magruder's testimony
                -Indictments
                     -Timing
                     -Submission
                     -Republican Convention
                     -Clark MacGregor's statement
                          -Timing
                             -The President’s forthcoming meeting with Kakuei Tanaka
                -Grand jury
                     -Control
                          -Mitchell
                          -Harry S. Truman Administration
                     -Department of Justice

The President talked with Haig at an unknown time between 5:02 pm and 5:15 pm.

[Conversation No. 362-22C]

[See Conversation No. 29-68; one item has been withdrawn]

[End of telephone conversation]

             Shriver
                 -Meetings with Kissinger about peace negotiations
                      -Kissinger's denials
                 -Statements on previous talks with Kissinger
                      -The President’s European trip
                      -Secret meetings
                 -Kissinger and Haig
                      -Concern about issue of war
                          -Shriver as issue
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                 -Kissinger
                     -Secret trips
                         -Significance
                               -The President’s view
                               -Hanoi
                               -Japan
                               -Soviet Union
                                   -Announcement
                                        -Timing

            Watergate
               -MacGregor's statement
               -Grand jury
                    -Investigation

            Kissinger
                -Joseph C. Kraft article
                    -Significance of Kissinger's trips
                -Trips abroad
                    -Value
                    -Haig
                -Negotiations
                    -Exposing record
                         -Possible effect

            Draft
                -The President's memoranda
                -End
                    -Date of announcement
                        -1972 election
                        -Melvin R. Laird's position
                        -Haig
                        -January 1, 1973
                        -Armed Services Committee
                             -June [1973?]

The President and Haldeman left at 5:15 pm.
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