Conversation: 363-016
Prev: 363-015 Next: 363-017Start Date: Tuesday, August 8, 1972 8:11 PM
End Date: Tuesday, August 8, 1972 8:54 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.; [Unknown person(s)]; White House operator; Cook, Richard K.; Bull, Stephen B.Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building
NARA Description:
On August 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, unknown person(s), White House operator, Richard K. Cook, and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:11 pm to 4:54 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 363-016 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 363-16
Date: August 8, 1972
Time: 4:11 pm - 4:54 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.
Greetings
1972 election
-George S. McGovern
-Letter
-Briefings on foreign policy
-Paul Warnke
-Kissinger’s possible participation
-Richard M. Helms
-Vietnam negotiations
-As a campaign issue
An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 4:11 pm.
Refreshments
The unknown person left at an unknown time before 4:47 pm.
1972 election
-Kissinger's role
-Fundraising
-Vietnam
-Kissinger's schedule
-Forthcoming trip to Moscow
An unknown person entered and left at an unknown time between 4:11 pm and 4:47 pm.
-Possible foreign policy briefings for McGovern
-Compared with Lyndon B. Johnson's briefings for Barry
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
M. Goldwater
-Administration’s reaction to McGovern's letter
-Possible writer
-H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Kissinger
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Haldeman
-Possible briefing for Warnke
-Security clearances
-Haig
-Helms
-Warnke
-Kissinger’s view
-Pentagon Papers
-Daniel Ellsberg
-Clark M. Clifford
-Administration’s possible reaction
-McGovern's letter
-Kissinger’s reading of text
-Warnke
-Haig
-Administration response to McGovern's letter
-Possible writer
-Kissinger
-Haig
-Haldeman
-Alexander P. Butterfield
-Haldeman
-Offer of briefings
-Warnke
-Haig
-Helms
-Warnke
-Location
-Haig
-Kissinger
-Warnke
-Haig
-Helms
-State and Defense Departments
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-McGovern
-Speeches on Vietnam negotiations
-Impact on negotiations
-Publication of records of negotiations
The President's meeting with Republican leaders
-Butterfield
-Foreign policy subjects
-Kissinger’s representative
-Presence
-End-the-war resolution in House of Representatives
-The President's possible calls to House members
-Gerald R. Ford
-Advisability
-William E. Timmons
-Camp David
-Richard K. Cook
-Kissinger's actions
-Senate
Kissinger’s forthcoming telephone conversation with Cook
The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 4:11 pm and
4:47 pm.
[Conversation No. 363-16A]
[See Conversation No. 29-56]
[End of telephone conversation]
Antiwar Republicans
-House
-Number
-Senate
-Goldwater's evaluation
-Republican National Convention
-Edward W. Brooke
-Kissinger's meeting at Jacob K. Javits's house
-Warren Avis
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Hugh Scott
Kissinger talked with Cook at an unknown time between 4:11 pm and 4:47 pm.
[Conversation No. 363-16B]
[See Conversation No. 29-57]
[End of telephone conversation]
The President’s possible telephone calls
-Cook’s view
-Charles McC. Mathias, Jr.
-Meetings with the President
-Ford
-Senate
Vietnam negotiations
-Status
-Ellsworth F. Bunker
-North Vietnamese proposal
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 4m 58s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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Vietnam
-Effect of 1972 election
-Possible bombing halt
-Value
-Effect on 1968 election
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Possible effect on 1972 election
-Extent of bombing halt
-Negotiations
-Justification
-Populated areas
-20th parallel
-Mining
-Negotiations
-McGovern
-Record
-Effect of 1972 election
-Casualties
-Air war
-Record
-McGovern
-Possible television appearance by Kissinger
-Effect
Kissinger's talk with young people
-State Department
-Interns
-Questions
-Opposition to the President's policies
-Kissinger's statements
-US interests abroad
-Communist rule in other nations
-Kissinger's visit to Europe in 1968
-Prague
-Paris
-Student revolt
-Gen. Charles A.J.M. DeGaulle
-Students’ view of establishment
-Prague
-Czech view of Leninist doctrine
-Response by audience
-Questions on Vietnam
-Kissinger's answer
-Possible US withdrawal from South Vietnam
-The President's policy in Vietnam
-The President's principles
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Audience response to Kissinger's answers
-The President's Vietnam policies
-Compared with situation in 1968
-Questions on the People's Republic of China [PRC] and the Soviet Union
-Kissinger's answers
-US policy toward the Soviet Union
-Kissinger’s unknown assistant
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 4:11 pm.
The President's schedule
-Meeting with [Boris V. Petrovsky]
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 4:47 p.m.
Kissinger's schedule
-Camp David
-Return of telephone call
The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 4:11 pm and
4:47 pm.
[Conversation No. 363-16C]
[See Conversation No. 29-58]
[End of telephone conversation]
Kissinger's schedule
The President's schedule
The President talked with Stephen B. Bull between 4:47 pm and 4:48 pm.
[Conversation No. 363-16D]
[See Conversation No. 29-59; one item has been withdrawn]
[End of telephone conversation]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 46s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
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Possible foreign policy briefings for McGovern
-Possible briefing by Kissinger
-Warnke
-The President’s instruction
-Security clearance
-Clifford
-Haig
Kissinger's appearance with student group
-PRC and Soviet Union topics
-Audience response
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 57s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
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Republicans
-Doves
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Javits
-Administration's Vietnam policy
-The President’s November 3, 1969 speech
-Cambodian incursion
-Laos
-The President’s May 8, 1972 decision
Effect of 1972 election
-State Department
-Defense Department
-Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
-Mathias
-McGovern
The President's meeting with Petrovsky
-Time
-Substance
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
-Cooperation
Kissinger's schedule
-Camp David
Kissinger left at 4:54 pm.