Conversation: 366-006
Prev: 366-005 Next: 366-007Start Date: 12-Oct-1972 6:10 PM
End Date: 12-Oct-1972 8:46 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.; Bull, Stephen B.; Sanchez, Manolo; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Kissinger, Henry A.; Haig, Alexander M., Jr.;Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building
NARA Description:
On October 12, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, Stephen B. Bull, Manolo Sanchez, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Henry A. Kissinger, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 6:10 pm to 8:46 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 366-006 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 366-6
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Date: October 12, 1972
Time: 6:10 pm - 8:46 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with Charles W. Colson.
The President's trip to Atlanta
-Crowd size
-Washington Star
-H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Television [TV] coverage
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 6:10 pm.
The President’s schedule
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Dr. W. Kenneth Riland
-Haldeman
Bull left at an unknown time before 7:00 pm.
-Atlanta
-The President’s speech
-Southern strategy
-Issues
-Busing
-Michigan
-Compared to Alabama
-Education quality
-National defense, peace with honor
-Progress
-Revenue sharing
-Prosperity
-Prices, taxes
-Character
-[Hannah (Milhous) Nixon]
-Indiana
-[Frank Nixon]
-Ohio
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-Italian Americans
-Speech writers
-Opportunity
-[Thomas] Woodrow Wilson
-Vietnam
-Richard B. Russell
-Wilson
-[Constitution] Hall
-1912
-Peace, hope, opportunity
-Busing
-George Meany
-Home buyers
-Schools
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 6:10 pm.
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Sanchez left at an unknown time before 7:00 pm.
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1972 campaign
-Vietnam War
-George S. McGovern’s October 10, 1972 speech
-Reaction
-Meany
Sanchez [?] entered at an unknown time after 6:10 pm.
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Refreshment
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 7:00 pm.
1972 campaign
-Vietnam War
-Meany
-Antiwar demonstrators
-Louis P. Harris
-McGovern
-Tone
-Staff
-Republicans, labor
-James B. (“Scotty”) Reston, Joseph C. Kraft
-Union College, Massachusetts speech
-Tone
-The President's conversation with H.R. Haldeman
-McGovern’s press relations
-Frank F. Mankiewicz
-Barry M. Goldwater
-Walter W. Jenkins, Robert D. (“Bobby”) Baker
-Alger Hiss
-Washington Post
Press relations
-Washington Post building dedication
-William P. Rogers
-Acceptance of invitation
-The President’s conversation with Haldeman
-Speech
-Tone
-Kenneth W. Clawson
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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[Duration: 2m 37s ]
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National Welfare Rights Organization [NWRO]
-Demonstration
-Democrats for Nixon
-Support for McGovern
-Welfare advertisements
-News coverage
-TV networks, wire services
-Democrats for Nixon
-Arrests
-Blacks
-McGovern’s welfare proposal
Press relations
-Watergate
-Washington Post story
-Administration response
-McGovern
-NWRO demonstration
-TV networks
-Walter L. Cronkite, Jr.
-Washington Post, New York Times
-TV networks
-Labor
-New York Times story
-Phillip Shabecoff
-Democrats
-Mood
-Headquarters
The President's background
-South
-Education
-The President’s Atlanta speech
-Southern strategy
-Whittier College, Duke University
-Study of history
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-Gen. Ulysses S. Grant, Gen. Robert E. Lee, Gen. Joseph E. Johnston,
Gen. Thomas ("Stonewall") Jackson
-Bill Perdue
-Macon, Georgia
-Relations with labor leaders
-Compared to McGovern
1972 campaign
-McGovern’s image
-New York Times story
-Issues
-Hardhats
-Amnesty, morality, marijuana, permissiveness, lifestyle
-The President’s recent breakfast meeting
-Revenue sharing, education, health
-Marijuana
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-California vote
-Price
-Penalties
-Legalization
-Alcohol
-California
-Poll
-Price’s view
-Youth
-White House staff
-Kissinger’s schedule
-South, Italian Americans
-Issues
-Establishment
-Time, Newsweek, Life, New York Times, Columbia Broadcasting System
[CBS], American Broadcasting System [ABC], National Broadcasting
Company [NBC], Washington Post
-Goldwater
-Compared to the President
-The President's foreign policy accomplishments
-Meany’s view of US relations with the People's Republic of China
[PRC], Soviet Union
-Richard A. Moore
-Compared with Goldwater’s view
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-National mood
-Compared to 1964
-Labor
-Colson’s correspondence
-Unknown person
-Meany
-National defense, amnesty, abortion
-Permissiveness issue
-South
-Midwest
-Ohio
-West
-Denver
-Morality
-McGovern
-The President’s view
-Foreign policy
-Establishment efforts
-Cambodia
-The President’s November 3, 1969 speech
-Demonstrators
-Cambodia, Kent State University
-Public reaction
-Media
-Daniel Yankelovich
-The President’s May 8, 1972 decision
-Issues in 1968, 1964
-Moore, Ronald L. Ziegler, John D. Ehrlichman
-The press
Haldeman entered at an unknown time after 6:10 pm.
-South
-Press
-Moore, John D. Ehrlichman, Ronald L. Ziegler
-Morality
-The President’s Atlanta speech
-Response
-McGovern
-Supporters
-Permissiveness
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-The President’s view
-Charges of corruption against the President's
administration
Polls
-Colson’s recent conversation with Albert D. Sindlinger, George H. Gallup
-Effect of McGovern’s Vietnam speech
-Prisoners of war [POWs]
-George H. Gallup
-Communist government in South Vietnam
-Washington Post story
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NWRO demonstration
-Democrats for Nixon
-News coverage
-Arrests
Washington, DC jail takeover
-Conditions
-“Strike”
Blacks
-Possible percentage voting for the President
-Hippies
-The President’s recent trip to Atlanta
-Stanley S. Scott
-Wire story
-Teacher
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-School children
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Kissinger and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. entered at 7:05 pm.
Greetings
Colson left at 7:05 pm.
US-Soviet Union maritime treaty
-Kissinger’s conversation with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-Paul Hall
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 7:05 pm.
Dinner
-Order
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 8:46 pm.
Vietnam negotiations
-Kissinger’s conversation with the press
-Marvin L. Kalb
-Settlement
-Timing
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-Kissinger’s proposed schedule
-Paris, Saigon, Hanoi
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-Quality
-Thieu’s possible reaction
-Possible cease-fire
-French consulate
-Surface to air missile [SAM] hit
-US public opinion
-Military action
-The President’s view
-George Meany
-Support
-New York Times, Washington Post
-Settlement
-Dates
-Cease-fire
-October 30 or 31, 1972
-Withdrawal of troops
-Provisions for military aid to South Vietnam
-McGovern’s Vietnam speech
-Effect
-Negotiating session
-Length of time
-Type of settlement
-Honor
-US withdrawal
-PRC
-Haig’s view
-Honor
-Thieu
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Thieu
-Gen. William C. Westmoreland
-Haldeman
-Instructions to Haig
-Winston S. Churchill
-Military provisions
-Military aid
-Le Duc Tho
-POWs
-Replacements
-POWs
-January 5, 1973
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-Laos, Cambodia
-Missing in action [MIAs]
-Prisoners in South Vietnam
-Thieu
-Viet Cong [VC]
-Negotiation session
-Duration
-Wording
-Thieu
-VC
Sanchez [?] entered at an unknown time after 7:05 pm.
Refreshment
Sanchez [?] left at an unknown time before 8:46 pm.
Vietnam negotiations
-Political provisions
-Thieu
-Tenure
-National Council for National Reconciliation and Concord [NCNRC]
-Cease-fire
-Administrative structure
-POW release
-Possible continuation of war
-North Vietnam
-PRC relations
-US relations
-Reparations
-Economic assistance
-PRC
-The President’s May 28, 1969 message
-Five year program
-International control
-World War II
-Germans, Japanese
-North Vietnam
-Interview with the President
-Reunification of Vietnam
-International commission [of control and supervision]
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-Cambodia, Laos
-McGovern’s recent speech
-Use of base areas
-Foreign military activities, personnel, materials
-Deal not for publication
-Negotiations
-The President’s schedule
-Atlanta
-The President’s May 8, 1972 proposal
-Thieu
-Messages from the President
-Thieu’s position
-Handling
-Possible meetings
-Adm. John S. McCain, Jr., Westmoreland
-Tenure
-Journalists, experts’ view
-1972 election
-Possible impact
-Xuan Thuy
-Management job
-Soviet Union, PRC
-Corruption
-Peace with honor
-South Vietnam
-Thieu
-1972 election
-Bombing
-Xuan Thuy
-Thieu
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Paris
-Saigon-Hanoi-Saigon
-[Wine]
-Napa Valley
-Le Duc Tho
-[Toast]
-US efforts
-New York Times, Washington Post
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Haig
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-Thieu
-October 13, 1972
-William P. Rogers, Melvin R. Laird
Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 7:05 pm.
-Sanchez’s view
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 8:46 pm.
-The President’s May 8, 1972 decision
-North Vietnam
-Soviet Union, PRC
-Berlin agreement
-Rogers
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Xuan Thuy
-Role
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Hanoi, Saigon
-The President’s schedule
-Hawaii
-New York
-Ohio
-Peace with honor
-POWs
-1972 election
-Cease-fire
-Thieu
-McGovern
-Thieu
-1972 election
-Possible leak
-Le Duc Tho
-Settlement terms
-POWs
-Reparations
-Thieu
-Joseph W. Alsop
The President left and entered at an unknown time before 8:46 pm.
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-Kissinger’s schedule
-William L. Sullivan
-U. Alexis Johnson
-Rogers
-Saigon
-Johnson
-The President’s May 8, 1972 decision
-Bombing, mining
-Soviet Union reaction
-1972 election
-Second term
-Jewish propaganda
-Leningrad, Stalingrad
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Conduct of war
-Prisoners in South Vietnam jails
-Westmoreland
-Haig
-Laos, Cambodia
-Bombing halt
-McGovern
-Texts
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Hanoi
-Saigon
-Hawaii
-Bombing
-Cease-fire
-1972 election
-Kissinger’s schedule
-Paris
Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 7:05 pm.
Instruction
The President, Haldeman, Kissinger, Haig and Sanchez left at 8:46 pm.
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