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Start Date: 25-Oct-1972 11:18 AM

End Date: 25-Oct-1972 12:00 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Ziegler, Ronald L.Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

372-024.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:18 am to 12:00 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 372-024 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 372-24

Date: October 25, 1972
Time: 11:18 am - 12:00 pm
Location: Executive Office Building


The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

        Bill signings

        1972 election campaign
            -October 25, Washington Post story on Haldeman and campaign espionage
                -Ronald L. Ziegler
            -Forthcoming George McGovern television [TV] appearance
                -Administration response
                     -Press conference by Clark MacGregor and Robert J. Dole
                         -Timing of conference
                -Watergate allegations
                     -John N. Mitchell
                     -Dwight L. Chapin
                -Vietnam issue
                     -MacGregor’s statement
                         -Paul C. Warnke
                     -McGovern's position compared to the President’s position
                     -“Peace with surrender” compared “peace with honor”
                     -Emphasis in press
                -Henry A. Kissinger
                     -Possible trip to Hanoi
                     -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
                -MacGregor’s statement
                     -McGovern’s position on peace settlement negotiations
                         -Prisoners of war [POWs]
                         -Communist government in South Vietnam

        Watergate
           -News story on Haldeman
                -Veracity
                -Authority
                -Secret fund allegation
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                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Nov-03)

               -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] inquiry
               -Hugh W. Sloan, Jr.,
               -Response
                   -Ziegler
                   -Henry E. Peterson
                   -Richard G. Kleindienst
                   -MacGregor
               -Richard A. Moore
               -Impact on public opinion
                   -Sherman Adams
               -Impact on press
          -Washington Post
               -John B. Connally’s statement
                   -Charles W. Colson’s staff
                        -Loyalty
          -White House staff loyalty
               -Rose Mary Woods
          -Patrick J. Buchanan
               -John P. Sears
                   -Woods


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Privacy]
[Duration: 17s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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          -Chapin
              -Memorandum
                  -Location
              -Haldeman
              -Donald H. Segretti
              -Chapin's secretary
                  -Nellie L. Yates
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                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Nov-03)

                           -Unknown person
                 -FBI document
             -Segretti
                 -Arthur H. Bremer
                 -Chapin
                 -Haldeman's knowledge
                 -Chapin
                 -Washington Post
                 -Libel case
                       -Chapin, Haldeman
                       -Maurice H. Stans
                           -John W. Dean, III


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 3m 33s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

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Ziegler entered at 11:33 am.

         Vietnam negotiations
             -Postponement of statement
                 -Kissinger’s view


Ziegler left at 11:34 am.


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 5m 23s ]
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                                   Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. Nov-03)



END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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       The President’s forthcoming radio message on vetoes
           -Nature of message
               -Time
           -TV
               -Buying air time


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 8m 45s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
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       Amnesty issue
          -McGovern’s position
              -Vietnam War


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 3m 14s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6

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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Nov-03)


Kissinger entered at 11:55 am.

        Vietnam peace settlement negotiations
            -William F. Buckley, Jr.’s forthcoming column
                -Kissinger’s recent conversation with Buckley
                     -US proposal
                          -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                              -Gen. John W. Vogt
                -Support for the President
            -US negotiating strategy
                -North Vietnamese message
                -(Madame) Nguyen This Binh’s statement
                     -Cease-Fire
                -Nguyen Van Thieu’s response
                -North Vietnamese
                     -Le Duc Tho
                -US stance
                     -Issue of coalition government
                -Issue of coalition government
                     -Treaty Wording
                          -[National Council of National Reconciliation and Concord]
                -Messages
                     -Paris
                     -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
                -Public record
                -Settlement
                     -Timing
                -Verification
                -Settlement
                     -Timing
                          -1972 election
                -Howard K. Smith
                     -Ronald L. Ziegler
                     -Charles W. Colson
                -Richard (“Dick”) Wilson
                -William S. White
                     -Lyndon B. Johnson
                -The President’s position

        October 25, Washington Post story on Haldeman and campaign espionage
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                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Nov-03)

            -Haldeman’s photograph
            -Kissinger’s view
            -Haldeman’s control over secret fund


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 35s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 8

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Haldeman and Kissinger left at 12:00 pm.