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Start Date: 27-Oct-1972 9:55 AM

End Date: 27-Oct-1972 11:08 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

374-016.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 27, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 9:55 am to 11:08 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 374-016 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 374-16

Date: October 27, 1972
Time: 9:55 am - 11:08 am
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Charles W. Colson.

        The President's schedule
            -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
            -Bills for signature, veto


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Haldeman entered at 9:56 am.
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                                    Tape Subject Log
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       1972 campaign
           -McGovern’s position on Vietnam peace settlement
               -News summary
                   -Patrick J. Buchanan, Henry A. Kissinger
                   -The President’s orders to attack McGovern
                   -Possible attack on R. Sargent Shriver
                   -Prisoners of war [POWs]
                   -Disarmament of South Vietnam
                   -Coalition government
                   -Timing of US pullout
               -Kissinger’s public statements
                   -John A. Scali’s view
               -“Peace with honor” compared with “Peace with surrender”
               -Electorate
                   -The President’s view
           -The White house and the press
               -Joseph C. Kraft
               -Communication with the Washington Post
                   -Murrey Marder’s call to Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                   -The President’s orders for Kissinger
                        -New York Times
                   -William P. Rogers
                        -William H. Sullivan
                   -John B. Connally
                        -Haig
               -Delegating authority
                   -Comparison to [Thomas] Woodrow Wilson
                        -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew

       Record of opponents’ statements on issues
          -Polls
          -Efforts of Colson’s staff
          -Six Crises
               -James B. (“Scotty”) Reston
                   -William F. Knowland
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                                   Tape Subject Log
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           -Kissinger
           -Possible television [TV] special
               -Testing of Dan Rather’s predictions
               -Timing
                    -1972 election
               -Press coverage
               -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]


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       Vietnam and the 1972 election
           -McGovern
               -Sympathy appeal
               -Campaign strategy
               -Proposals for peace in Vietnam
                   -Focus of White house response
               -Media coverage, October 26, 1972
                   -Possible public response
                   -Ending the war in 1969
                        W[illiam] Averell Harriman
                   -McGeorge Bundy
                        -Kissinger
           -Watergate as issue
           -McGovern’s statements
               -Credibility
                   -Colson’s view
               -Campaign strategy
                   -Attacking Shriver
                        -Buchanan’s view
               -Robert J. Dole’s statements
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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             -Administration strategy
                -Ziegler’s view
                -The president’s recent views
                -McGovern’s recent remarks
                     -US casualties
                -Use of Agnew for White House response
                -Use of Rogers for press conference
                -Support for the President
                -Dole


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        1972 campaign
            -Vietnam War demonstrations
                -Boston
                    -Federal building
            -McGovern’s peace settlement proposals
                -Withdrawal timetable

The President left after an unknown time after 9:56 am.

             -Shriver
                 -Kissinger’s trips

The President entered at an unknown time before 11:05 am.

             -Haldeman
                 -Newspaper story in Washington Post about 1962 activites
             -Donald F. Nixon
             -Albert E. Sindlinger’s views
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Oct-06)

           -Public opinion
               -Polls
                    -Measure of success
                    -Louis P. Harris, Sindlinger, Richard M. Scammon
                    -Important factors
                        -Busing, amnesty, abortion, foreign policy
                         Vietnam
               -Press
               -McGovern
                    -Opportunity to attack administration
                    -Economic issues, Vietnam
               -Limitations on administration’s popularity
                    -Public perception of McGovern campaign
                    -Vietnam
                        -Moral issue
                             -Frank E. Fitzsimmons
                             -“Peace with honor”
                        -Sindlinger
                             -Economy
                        -The President's standing
                             -George H. Gallup
                        -Kissinger



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       Terence Cardinal Cooke and John P. Cardinal Cody's request for
        peace prayers

       Request for a telephone call to Kissinger
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Oct-06)


Haldeman talked with Kissinger at an unknown time between 11:05 and 11:08 am.

[Conversation No. 374-16A]

        Vietnam update
            -Kissinger's call to Connally
            -Haig's briefing of George Meany

[End of telephone conversation]

        Vietnam peace settlement
            -Connally's views

The President, Haldeman and Colson left at 11:08 am.