Conversation: 381-018
Prev: 381-017 Next: 381-019Start Date: 18-Dec-1972 2:06 PM
End Date: 18-Dec-1972 2:35 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kleindienst, Richard G.; Ehrlichman, John D.; Sanchez, Manolo;Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building
NARA Description:
On December 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Richard G. Kleindienst, John D. Ehrlichman, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:06 pm to 2:35 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 381-018 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 381-18
Date: December 18, 1972
Time: 2:06 pm – 2:35 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with Richard G. Kleindienst and John D. Ehrlichman.
Insurance
-Golf
Golf
-Hole-in-one
-Kleindienst’s photograph in newspaper
Second term reorganization
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III
-Schedule
-Connecticut
-Meeting with Kleindienst
-Health
-Florida
-Delay of meeting with the President
-Gen. Walter R. Tkach
-Habits
-J[ean] Paul Getty
-Telephone call from the President
-Age
-Wealth
-Habits
-Retention
-Negatives and positives
-Kleindienst’s conversation with John N. Mitchell
-Confirmation hearings
-Watergate
-Possible testimony
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 2:06 pm.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 381-18 (cont’d)
Temperature in office
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 2:35 pm.
Second term reorganization
-FBI
-Gray
-Confirmation hearings
-Watergate
-Politics
-Cronyism charge
-Watergate
-Edward M. Kennedy
-Possible Presidency
-Post-Presidency
-Republican
-Liberal Democrat
-Reform
-Field offices
-Discipline
-Timing
-Peter J. Pitchess
-Relationship with Kleindienst
-Qualities
-Age
-Political ability
-Age
-1976 election
-Republican
-Kennedy
-Richard G. Ogilvie
-Attorney General
-Political ability
-Background as governor
-Law firm
-Compared to Pitchess, Gray
-Pitchess
-Background
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 381-18 (cont’d)
-Barry M. Goldwater’s California campaign chairman, 1964
-Los Angeles
-Compared to Gray
-Trust
-Gray
-Confirmation hearings
-Kennedy
-Birch E. Bayh, Jr.
-John V. Tunney
-G. Harrold Carswell
-1972 election
-1976 election
-Kennedy’s speech
-Conversation with the President
-The President’s conversation with Mitchell
-Confirmation hearings
-Senate Judiciary Committee
-James O. Eastland
-Confirmation hearings
-Kennedy, Bayh
-Commitments
-Conversation with the President
-The President’s schedule
-Florida
-Matthew Byrne
-Political orientation
-Democrat
-Los Angeles
-US attorney
-Objectivity
-Time article, November 6, 1972
-Source
-Unknown woman reporter
-Field offices
-Gray’s effort
-W. Mark Felt
-Gray’s view
-1972 election
-Mitchell’s view
-Gray
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-08)
Conversation No. 381-18 (cont’d)
-Conversation with Kleindienst
-Kleindienst’s view
Mitchell
-Martha (Beall) Mitchell
-Health
-Watergate
-Responsibility
-Health
Second term reorganization
-Narcotics
-Allocation and use of resources
-Addicts
-US
-Compared to France
-Seale
-Epidemic
-Compared to France, Japan, Britain, Spain
-Customs
-Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs [BNDD]
-Roy L. Ash
-Recommendation
-Outsider status
-Kleindienst’s schedule
-Study
-Narcotics
-Ash
-John F. Gallagher [?]
-Budget
-Ash
-The President’s conversation with Kleindienst
-Customs
-Border Patrol
-Immigration and Naturalization Service [INS]
-Investigations
-Treasury Department
-Investigations
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-Investigations
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-08)
Conversation No. 381-18 (cont’d)
-BNDD
-Justice Department
-FBI
-J. Edgar Hoover
-FBI
-Hoover’s view
-Automobile thefts, kidnapping, organized crime, drugs, campus
riots
-Controversy
Hoover
-Late career
-Image
-Kleindienst’s view
-Departure
-Death
-The President’s breakfast meeting with Hoover, September 20, 1971
-Gray’s view
-Speeches
-The President’s meeting with Hoover
-John Mitchell’s schedule
-John Mitchell’s view
-Public relations [PR]
Professional football
-Washington Redskins playoff game
-Washington Post reporter
-Reference to “Negroes”
-Black, “Afro-Americans”
-Media relations
-Television [TV] blackout of playoff games
-Kleindienst’s viewing
-Kleindienst’s possible suit
-Edward Bennett Williams
-National policy
-Kleindienst’s conversation with Alvin R. (“Pete”) Rozelle
-Rozelle
-FBI
-Sellouts
-Super Bowl I
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-08)
Conversation No. 381-18 (cont’d)
-Redskins-Buffalo Bills game
-Denver
-St. Louis
-Busch Stadium
-Redskins-Bills game
-Redskins-Bills game
-Ehrlichman’s attendance
-O[renthal] J[ames] Simpson
-Billy Kilmer
-Dallas Cowboys-New York Giants game
-Redskins-Bills game
-Ehrlichman’s attendance
-George Allen
-Media relations
-TV blackout of playoff games
-The President’s instructions
-Kleindienst’s forthcoming conversation with Rozelle
-Kleindienst’s meeting with the President
-Possible suit
-Kleindienst’s possible conversation with Williams
-Rozelle
-US District Court
-Injunction
-Compared to networks and re-runs
-The President’s efforts
-Hollywood
-National policy
-Kleindienst’s conversation with Williams
-The President’s schedule
-Florida
-Washington, DC voters
Second term reorganization
-The President’s conversation with Gray
-Deputy Secretary of Treasury
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Gray
-Qualifications
-Withholding of nomination
-Reasons
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. May-08)
Conversation No. 381-18 (cont’d)
-International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT]
-Oil [Policy Committee order]
-Nomination
-John Mitchell’s concern
Watergate break-in
-John Mitchell’s concern
-Republican National Committee [RNC]
-White House involvement
-RNC
Second term reorganization
-Gray
-Nomination
-Kennedy, Tunney, Bayh
Professional football
-TV blackout of playoff games
-Kleindienst’s call to Rozelle
-Kleindienst’s conversation with Williams
-Possible suit
Kleindienst and Ehrlichman left at 2:35 pm.