Conversation: 389-018
Prev: 389-017 Next: 389-019Start Date: 4-Nov-1972 11:02 AM
End Date: 4-Nov-1972 11:40 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Colson, Charles W.; Ziegler, Ronald L.; Hibbard, Henry; Bull, Stephen B.;Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building
NARA Description:
On November 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Charles W. Colson, Ronald L. Ziegler, Henry Hibbard, and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 11:02 am and 11:40 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 389-018 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 389-18
Date: November 4, 1972
Time: Unknown between 11:02 am and 11:40 am
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
Press relations
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Judgment
The President’s schedule
-Charles W. Colson
-Arrival
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1972 campaign
-Telephone calls
-Value
-George S. McGovern
-Vietnam settlement
-Statement
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb.-08)
Conversation No. 389-18 (cont’d)
-Sense of desperation
-Charles W. Colson
-Comments on campaign
-Local campaigns
-Governors
Colson and Ziegler entered at 11:05 am.
The President talked with Henry Hibbard between 11:04 am and 11:06 am.
[Conversation No. 389-18A]
[See Conversation No. 33-33]
[End of telephone conversation]
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Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown after 11:06 am.
John B. Connally’s [?] schedule
-Cincinnati
-1972 campaign
The President’s schedule
Bull left at an unknown before 11:15 am.
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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
1972 campaign
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-Tough statement
-Release
-Press conference
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb.-08)
Conversation No. 389-18 (cont’d)
-Arrangements
-Media coverage
-Topics of discussion
-Demonstrators
-Meeting with Ziegler
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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1972 campaign
-McGovern speech in Chicago, November 3, 1972
-Response
-Desperation
-Sabotage
-Vietnam negotiations
-Progress
-Desperation, irresponsibility
-Effect on McGovern’s candidacy
-Negotiations
-Effect of McGovern’s comments on Hanoi
-Peace with surrender
-Compared with peace with honor
-Choice for American people in 1968 and 1972
-Statement by Agnew
-McGovern’s irresponsibility
-Praise for Hubert H. Humphrey’s stand on issue
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-Publicity
-Public reacation
-New England
-McGovern’s credibility
-Accusations against the President
-Television [TV]
-Vietnam negotiations
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb.-08)
Conversation No. 389-18 (cont’d)
-Political benefits
-Response
-Ziegler
-Agnew
-The President
-Press
Ziegler and Colson left at 11:15 am.
-Agnew
-Role
-Problems
-Colson’s handling
-Haldeman’s handling
-McGovern speech in Chicago
-Response
-William P. Rogers
-The President’s trips
-Chicago
-Oklahoma
-Mark I. Goode
-Arrangements
-William H. Carruthers
-Chicago
-Problems
-Publicity
-TV
-Arrangements
-Agnew
-Crowds
-Public relations work
-Effectiveness
-Clark MacGregor
-Morale
-Statements
-Attorney General
-Richard G. Kleindienst’s replacement
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb.-08)
Conversation No. 389-18 (cont’d)
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Second term reorganization
-Clark MacGregor
-New job
-[United Aircraft Corp]
-Conservatism
-Title
-Vice President
-Location
-Washington, DC
-Duties
-Travel
-Compared to Ronald W. Reagan [job at General Electric]
-Explanation of relationship of business and government to
students
-Expense account
-New establishment
-“Georgetown salon”
-[Barbara Porter (Spicer) MacGregor]
-Thomas W. Braden
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Possible judicial appointment
-Attitude
-White House staff
White House staff
-Attitudes
-Complainers, leakers
-Unknown person
-Internal memorandum
-Writing
-Timing
-Leak
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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb.-08)
Conversation No. 389-18 (cont’d)
1972 campaign
-Letter to the President
-Murray M. Chotiner
-California
-Crowds
-Ohio
-MacGregor
-McGovern
-Press coverage
-James J. Kilpatrick, Jr.
-Column
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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Haldeman left at an unknown time before 11:40 am.