Easy NixonAbout

Conversation: 390-001

Prev:  389-024 Next: 390-002

Start Date: 2-Nov-1972 12:04 PM

End Date: 2-Nov-1972 12:16 PM


Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.Pappas, Thomas A.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building


NARA Description:

On November 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and Thomas A. Pappas met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 12:04 pm to 12:16 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 390-001 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 390-1

Date: November 2, 1972
Time: 12:04 pm- 12:16 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

       Vietnam Negotiations
             -Press relations
                  -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
                         -Marvin L. Kalb
                         -Walter L. Cronkite, Jr.
                         -Kissinger’s possible backgrounder
                               -Ronald Ziegler’s view
            -Emissary to Nguyen Van Thieu
                         -John B. Connally
                               -[David] Kenneth Rush
                         -Ability to take instructions
                         -Democratic affiliation
                         -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                               -Letter Delivery
                         -Melvin R. Laird

Thomas A. Pappas talked with the President between 12:07 pm and 12:09 pm.

[Conversation No. 390-1A]

[See Conversation No. 32-148]

[End of telephone conversation]

       Vietnam negotiations


                         Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Mar.-08)

                                                  Conversation No. 390-1 (cont’d)

-Connally as emissary to Thieu
      -Trip timing
                    -Letter delivery
             -North Vietnamese talks with Kissinger
 -Message to Theiu
      -Ellsworth F. Bunker
      -Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.
      -Public statements about the President
             -Trust, confidence
                    -Possible formal protest
      -Haig’s role
             -Settlement agreement
             -Letter delivery
-Connally as US emissary to Thieu
      -Xuan Thuy statement
      -“Message to Garcia”
-Xuan Thuy statement
      -Settlement agreement
      -1972 election
 -US bombing
      -Northern South Vietnam
 -North Vietnamese
      -1972 election
 -Thieu's stance
             -South Vietnam’s viability
             -Population, geography
                    -Vietcong [VC]


                              Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. Mar.-08)

                                                       Conversation No. 390-1 (cont’d)

     -North Vietnamese forces
           -Troop withdrawals
                 -Antiaircraft units
                 -Number of divisions
                       -325th and 711th divisions
                              -Settlement agreement
           -Size of force in South Vietnam
                 -Laos, Cambodia
           -US option
           -Last conversation with Kissinger
           -Public support in South Vietnam
                 -Press and media coverage
     -Peace terms
                        -New York Times, Washington Post
           -Kissinger’s forthcoming backgrounder
           -The President’s May 8, 1972 proposals
           -Hubert H. Humphrey
                 -Possible telephone call from Kissinger
                        -News summary
                        -The President’s appreciation for bipartisanship
                        -Prospects for success in 1968 or 1969 compared to 1972
     -1972 election
           -Possible victory margin
     -Opponents’ complaints
           -Peace terms

The President’s schedule
     -Kissinger’s schedule

                               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Mar.-08)

                                                            Conversation No. 390-1 (cont’d)

                    -Trip to California
                    -Campaign trips
                          -North Carolina
                          -New Mexico
                          -Oklahoma City
                    -Ziegler's statement

Kissinger left at 12:16 p.m.