Conversation: 390-014
Prev: 390-013 Next: 390-015Start Date: 2-Nov-1972 5:35 PM
End Date: 2-Nov-1972 6:38 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Sanchez, Manolo; Butterfield, Alexander P.; White House operator; [Unknown person(s)]; Ehrlichman, John D.;Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building
NARA Description:
On November 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Manolo Sanchez, Alexander P. Butterfield, White House operator, unknown person(s), and John D. Ehrlichman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:35 pm to 6:38 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 390-014 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 390-14
Date: November 2, 1972
Time: 5:35 pm - 6:38 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
The President's forthcoming speech, “Look to the Future”
-Taping
-Problems
-Starts
-Camera
-Number of people in room
-Secret Service agent’s presence
-Duration
-The President’s schedule
-Number of words in speech
-William H. Carruthers
-Responsibility
-Duration
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Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 390-14 (cont’d)
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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
1971 campaign
-The President’s schedule
-Candidate telephone calls
-Press coverage
-The President’s trip
-Timing
-Departure
-Meeting with Margaret Chase Smith
-Candidate telephone calls
-Edward W. Brooke
-List
-Congress
-John K. MacIver
-Wisconsin
-Thomas J. Meskill
-Connecticut
-William T. Cahill
-New Jersey
-Robert P. Griffin
-Michigan
-Robert W. Hirsch
-South Dakota
-Wesley Powell
-J. Caleb Boggs
-Delaware
-John G. Tower
-Texas
-Howard H. Baker, Jr.
-Tennessee
-Jack Miller
-Iowa
-Clifford P. Hansen
-Smith
-Henry P. Smith III
-Brooke
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 390-14 (cont’d)
-William L. Scott
-Virginia
-Value
-Ohio
-S. Fletcher Thompson
-Kansas
-Republican National Committee [RNC] Chairman
-Robert J. Dole
-Scheduling
-Length of calls
-Audiences
-Margaret Smith
-Gerald R. Ford, Hugh Scott, Winton M. (“Red”) Blount
-Colorado
-Gordon L. Alcott
-Value
-Purpose
-Arrangements
-Publicity
-Big States
-Illinois
-New York
-California
-Missouri
-Christopher S. (“Kit”) Bond
-Radio addresses
-Foreign policy
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-Scheduling
-Press release
-Polls
-Results
-Charles W. Colson
-Albert E. Sindlinger
-Shifts
Manolo Sanchez and Alexander P. Butterfield [?] entered at an unknown time between 5:35 pm
and 6:00 pm.
Dinner
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 390-14 (cont’d)
The President’s schedule
Sanchez and Butterfield [?] left at an unknown time before 6:00 pm.
-Sindlinger
-Questions
-Wording
-Analysis
-George S. McGovern votes
-Approval rating
-Performance
-Vietnam
-Wisconsin
-Compared to Illinois
-The President’s showing
-Changes
-Opinion Research Corporation [ORC]
[Pause]
1972 Campaign
-Speech
-Ronald L. Ziegler
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The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 5:35 pm and
6:00 pm.
[Conversation No. 390-14A]
Request for a call to John D. Ehrlichman
[End of telephone conversation]
National health insurance
-Compulsory compared to voluntary program
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 390-14 (cont’d)
-Ehrlichman’s knowledge
-The President’s forthcoming radio address on health policy
-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
Haldeman talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 5:35 pm and 6:00
pm.
[Conversation No. 390-14B]
[See Conversation No. 32-153A]
National health insurance
-Radio address on health policy
-Revision
-Ehrlichman
-Compulsory compared to voluntary program
[End of telephone conversation]
Haldeman talked with an unknown woman from Cole’s office at an unknown time between 5:35
pm and 6:00 pm.
[Conversation No. 390-14B]
[See conversation No. 32-153B]
[End of telephone conversation]
National health insurance
-Compulsory compared to voluntary program
-HEW
-Socialists
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Donald H. Rumsfeld
The White House operator talked with Haldeman at 6:00 pm.
[Conversation No. 390-14C]
[See Conversation No. 32-154A]
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 390-14 (cont’d)
The President talked with Ehrlichman between 6:00 pm and 6:04 pm.
[Conversation No. 390-14D]
[See Conversation No. 32-154B]
[End of telephone conversation]
National health insurance
-Ehrlichman's and the President’s view
-Richardson
-Christian Science
-Haldeman’s view
-Christian Science
-Socialism compared to free enterprise
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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
1972 campaign
-Polls
-Vietnam
-Bombing halt
-The President’s speech, “Look to the Future”
-Tone
-Poll results
-Support for the President
-Impact of war’s end
-Speech
-Importance
-Peace with honor
Manolo Sanchez entered at 6:15 pm.
Dinner
Sanchez left at 6:15 pm.
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 390-14 (cont’d)
1972 campaign
-Vietnam
-Speech
-Tone
-Agreements
-Connally’s views
-Impact of election
-Hanoi, North Vietnam
-Moscow, Soviet Union
-Reporter
-McGovern
-Compared to Franklin D. Roosevelt
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-Hecklers
-San Diego incident at Vice President Spiro T. Agnew speech
-Assault on heckler
-Demonstrators
-Physical appearance of two men in altercation
-Archie Bunker analogy
-Jo Anne (Horton) Haldeman’s viewing
-National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC]
-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
-Ziegler report
-Public relations [PR]
-The President
-Nassau
-San Francisco
-Liberty Island
-Julie Eisenhower and Tricia Nixon Cox
-San Diego
-Tone
-Agnew’s report
-Administration wives’ bus trip incident
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger’s report
-Anne L. Armstrong
-Washington, DC
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 390-14 (cont’d)
-Jane (Dalton) Weingerber
-Fresno, California
-Conversation with unknown “Chicano”
-Motivation for heckling
-Payment by George S. McGovern campaign
-Television [TV] coverage
-Payment by McGovern campaign
-Press relations
-Lack of balance
-John S. (“Jack”) Knight
-Nicholas P. Thimmersch
Watergate
-Dirty tricks
-Donald H. Segretti
-Recruitment
-Responsibility
-Committee for the Re-election of the President [CRP]
-John N. Mitchell
-G[eorge] Gordon Liddy
-John Mitchell
-Martha (Beall) Mitchell
-Jeb Stuart Magruder
-Dwight L. Chapin
-Investigation
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 6:15 pm.
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 6:38 pm.
-Investigation
-Chapin
-Charles W. Colson
-Rowland Evans and Robert Novak column
-Liddy
-Mitchell
-Conversations with the President
-Colson
-1970 Campaign
-Segretti
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Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 390-14 (cont’d)
-Operation Sandwedge
-Herbert W. Kalmbach
-John J. (“Jack”) Caulfield
-Mitchell
-Responsibility
-Mitchell
-The President
-Chapin
-Colson
-Press relations
-The President’s reaction
-The President’s location
-Florida
-Involvement
-Segretti
-Liddy
-Mitchell and an unknown person
-Colson
-Finance Committee
-White House
-Chapin
-Segretti
-Recruitment
-Investigation
-Problems
-Chapin
-Segretti
-Chapin
-Mitchell
-Martha Mitchell
-1972 election
-Peter Flanigan’s views
-Possible TV appearance by the President
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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
1972 campaign
-Wisconsin
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Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 390-14 (cont’d)
-Illinois
-Minnesota
-Importance
-Minnesota
-Illinois
-Wisconsin
-William Proxmire, Gaylord Nelson
-Democratic governor
-Republican Party
-Decline
-Organization
-Catholic vote
-The President’s chances
-Minnesota
-Advertisements
-Number
-Radio
-TV
-NBC
-CBS
-Reruns
-Local stations
-Number
-Sale of time
-Prime time
-CBS
-Negotiations
-McGovern’s program
-Options
-Carruthers
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-CBS
-Vietnam
-Bombing halt
-1968 campaign
-William F. (“Billy”) Graham
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Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 390-14 (cont’d)
The President's schedule
-Church services
-The President's attendance
-Breakfast prayer meeting
-William F. (“Billy”) Graham
-White House staff
-Church services
-Photograph opportunities
-The President’s attendance
-Photograph opportunities
-Breakfast prayer meeting
-Graham
-Photograph opportunity
-Schedule
-Radio talks
Watergate
-Concern
-Republicans
-Democrats
-Attitudes
-Wilbur D. Mills
-J. William Fulbright
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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
1972 campaign
-President’s trip to Chicago
-Size of crowds
-Press coverage
-News wires
-New York Times
-Telephone calls
-Republican candidates
-The President’s popularity
-Scott
-Powell
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. Mar.-08)
Conversation No. 390-14 (cont’d)
-Peter H. Dominick
-Robert C. (“Bob”) Wilson
-Identification with the President
-McGovern
-John J. Sparkman’s support
-Polls
-Changes
-Robert J. Dole
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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Haldeman left at 6:38 pm.