Conversation: 391-009
Prev: 391-008 Next: 391-010Start Date: 1-Nov-1972 4:25 PM
End Date: 1-Nov-1972 5:15 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.; White House operator; Ziegler, Ronald L.; Price, Raymond K., Jr.; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob");Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building
NARA Description:
On November 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, White House operator, Ronald L. Ziegler, Raymond K. Price, Jr., and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:25 pm to 5:15 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 391-009 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 391-9
Date: November 1, 1972
Time: 4:25 pm - 5:15 pm
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with Charles W. Colson.
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Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
The President’s schedule
-Meeting with John Cardinal Krol
-Prayers for peace, administration
-Krol’s recent press conference
-Vietnam War
-Krol’s position
-Tone
-Nguyen Van Thieu
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-1972 campaign
-Clark MacGregor
-Far right wing
-Thieu
-Credibility
1972 election
-John G. Schmitz
-Press coverage
-Television [TV]
-Vietnam settlement
-Betrayal
-Effect
-Texas
-California
-Albert E. Sindlinger
-Texas
-Data
-Contract
-Treasury Department
-Polls
-Analysis
-The President’s hard line
-Uncertainty
-Results
-Samples
-Shifts
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-Louis P. Harris poll
-Vietnam issue
-Polls
-Newspaper coverage
-New York Daily News
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The President talked with the White House operator at 4:32 pm.
[Conversation No. 391-9A]
[See Conversation No. 32-122]
[End of telephone conversation]
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1972 campaign
-Polls
-New York Daily News
-Sample
-Results
-Changes
-New York
-Projections
-State
-Compared to Sindlinger poll
-Sample
-Controls
-Unintelligible name [?]
-Unintelligible name [?]
-Harris
-Richard M. Scammon
-Accuracy
-Rochester
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Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-Syracuse
-New York
-Suburbs
-Areas of suburbs
-Paul Hall
-Brooklyn
-Massachusetts
-Latest results
-George S. McGovern
-Blue collar vote
-The President’s support
-Suburban Boston
-Louise Day Hicks
-The President’s chances
-Hecklers in Boston [?]
-Response
-MacGregor
-Robert J. Dole
-Spiro T. Agnew
-Demonstrators
-Campaign offices
-McGovern
-Vietnam settlement
-Signing
-Hanoi
-Campaigning
-Quality
-Frank F. Mankiewicz
-Briefings of reporters
-David S. Broder
-Article
-Analysis of McGovern’s campaign
-Predictions
-State votes
-McGovern
-Jim Curry [?]
-Chances of victory
-Harris polls
-Analysis
-George C. Wallace
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-Impact on vote
-Third party efforts
-1956 election
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Predictions
-Press coverage
-Vietnam War
-Bombing pause
-Unions
-Members
-Democrats
-Votes for McGovern
-California
-Money
-McGovern supporters
-Demonstration
-John B. Connally
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Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 4:40 pm.
Greetings
The President’s schedule
-Announcement
-Release
-New Mexico
-Las Cruces
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1972 campaign
-The President’s trips
-North Carolina
-New Mexico
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-California
-States
-Number
-California
-Michigan
-Pennsylvania
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The President’s schedule
-Press conference
-Timing
-1972 election
-The President’s forthcoming trip to California
-November 4, 5, 1972 newspapers
-Watergate
-Return
-Press pool
-1972 election
-Closing of polls
-Evening news
-The President’s comments
-Duration
-Advisability
-Possible leak
-Ziegler’s possible announcement
-1972 campaign
-Vietnam War
-Social contact with press
-Watergate
-Meetings with reporters
-Theodore H. White
-Garnet D. (“Jack”) Horner
-November 4, 1972 departure for California
-Return from California, November 7, 1972
-Horner
-Nicholas P. Thimmesch
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Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-Forrest Boyd
-Rationale
-Richard (“Dick”) Wilson
-William S. White
-Thimmesch
-Horner
-Theodore White
-Horner
-Timing
-Watergate
-Horner, Thimmesch
-Ground rules
-Boyd
-Timing
-1972 election
-Horner
-Return from California
-Theodore White
-Aldo (“Elbow”) Beckman
-Chicago Tribune
-Social contact with press
Raymond K. Price, Jr. entered at 4:48 pm.
The President’s forthcoming speech, “Look to the Future”
-Draft
Ziegler left at 4:50 pm.
1972 campaign
-Hecklers in Boston
-Compared to Claudia A. (Taylor) (“Lady Bird”) Johnson incident
-Bruce A. Alger
-Compared to treatment of the President, Vice President [Spiro T. Agnew]
-[Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon]
-Treatment
-Use of obscenities, violence
-Compared to Eartha Kitt visit to White House
-Colson’s conversation with John F. X. Davoren [?]
-Response
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-Davoren [?], John F. Collins
-Forthcoming telephone calls to Colson
-The President’s schedule
-Boston Irish
Colson left at 4:51 pm.
The President’s speech, “Look to the Future”
-Vietnam section
-Revisions
-Henry A. Kissinger’s view
-Settlement agreement
-Central points
-Avoiding misunderstandings
-Renewal of the war
-Settlement breakdown
-Kissinger’s statement
-1972 election
-Results
-Viewing by world, Hanoi leaders
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-Public statements
-Pressure by US
-1968 election
-Consequence of McGovern victory
-Relationship with the President
-US friendship
-Hanoi
-Resignation demand
-US goals
-Progress
-“Peace with honor”
-Breakthrough
-Settlement agreement
-Terms
-Agreement
The President talked with Kissinger at an unknown time between 4:51 pm and 5:12 pm.
[Conversation No. 391-9B]
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The President’s speech, “Look to the Future”
-Vietnam section
-Revisions
-Additions
-Deletions
-The President’s first term
-Inflation
-Environment
-“The aging”
-Farmers
-Foreign policy
-US course over one-third of century
-Inflation
-Environment
-Foreign policy
-Domestic issues
-Transition point
-Foreign policy
-Progress
-Peace at home
-Inflation cut
-Effect on average worker
-Recap of achievements
-Conclusion
-“One child” section
-Racial, ethnic, income background of children
-Conclusion
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1972 campaign
-The President’s tactics
-Albert E. Sindlinger poll
-Wording of questions
-Responses
-1964 election
-Lyndon B. Johnson
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Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-Barry M. Goldwater
-Watergate issue
-Impact
-Democrats
-Upper class
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The President’s speech, “Look to the Future”
-Revisions
-Return to the President
-Timing
-The President’s review
-The President’s meeting with Price
-Length
-Delivery
-Pace
-Radio compared to TV
-Lyndon B. Johnson’s speeches
-Drama
-Additions
-Length
-The President’s reading
-Pace
The President’s meeting with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
The President talked with Haldeman at an unknown time between 4:51 pm and 5:12 pm.
[Conversation No. 391-9C]
Request for a meeting with Haldeman
[End of telephone conversation]
The President’s speech, “Look to the Future”
-Duration
-Revisions
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Conversation No. 391-9 (cont’d)
-Work
-McGovern
-Words
-Number
-Delivery
-Pace
-Inflation
-Philosophical points
-Change
-Revisions
-Return to the President
-Timing
-The President’s review
-The President’s meeting with Price
Price left at 5:15 pm.