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Start Date: 5-Jan-1973 12:36 PM

End Date: 5-Jan-1973 1:02 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.White House operatorBull, Stephen B.Timmons, William E.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

394-007.mp3

NARA Description:

On January 5, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, White House operator, Stephen B. Bull, and William E. Timmons met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 12:36 pm and 1:02 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 394-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 394-7

Date: January 5, 1973
Time: Unknown between 12:36 pm and 1:02 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Charles W. Colson.

       Telephone call
            -Ronald L. Ziegler’s schedule
                  -Press conference
                                            -11-

                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Sept.-08)

                                                             Conversation No. 394-7 (cont’d)


The President talked with Stephen B. Bull between 12:37 pm and 12:38 pm.

[Conversation No. 394-7A]

[See Conversation No. 35-95]

       Congressional relations
            -Colson's recent conversations with William E. Timmons
                  -Tone
                  -The President’s bipartisan leadership meeting
                        -George H. Mahon
                        -Standing ovation
                        -Democrats, Republicans
                        -Hugh Scott
                        -Gerald R. Ford
                  -Henry A. Kissinger’s meeting with Scott and Ford
                        -Kissinger meeting with Michael J. (“Mike”) Mansfield
           -Timmon’s schedule
                  -[Freshmen Congressmen and bipartisan leadership reception]

Colson take with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:38 pm and 1:02 pm.

[See Conversation No. 35-96]

Colson talked with Timmons at an unknown time between 12:38 pm and 1:02 pm.

[See Conversation No. 35-96]

       Congressional relations
            -Mansfield
                  -Possibility of leaks
            -Timmons’s schedule
                  -Meeting with Scott, Ford
            -Timmons
                  -Personality
                         -Enthusiasm
                               -Overstatements
            -Ronald L. Ziegler
            -Scott, Ford
                                      -12-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Sept.-08)

                                                        Conversation No. 394-7 (cont’d)


Unemployment
    -Statistics
           -Lack of change
           -Herbert Stein’s view
                -Revisions
                -January 1973, December, November, October 1972

Stock market
     -Status
     -Press relations
           -Associated Press [AP]
           -Washington Star
           -AP
           -Wire service reports
                  -Wall Street

Roberto Clemente fund
     -Daniel M. Galbreath’s statement
           -The President’s meeting with Galbreath, Dave Giusti [and Steve Blass]
                -“Sports city”
           -The President’s message and contribution

Press relations
      -The President’s schedule
             -January 1, 1973
                   -Roger H. Mudd
                   -Frank Cormier’s AP article
                         -Timing
                         -Oval Office
                               -[Lock on door]
                         -New York Daily News
      -Second term reorganization
             -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                   -Swearing in as Army Vice Chief of Staff
                   -Distinguished Service Medal
                         -The President’s presentation
                               -Washington Star
                               -AP
      -Harry S. Truman’s memorial service
                                    -13-

           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                             Tape Subject Log
                              (rev. Sept.-08)

                                                     Conversation No. 394-7 (cont’d)

          -The President’s attendance
               -Mary McGrory
               -The President’s telephone call to Lyndon B. Johnson
               -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
               -Public relations
                     -Independence, Missouri
                     -John A. Scali
               -Funeral
               -Television [TV]
                     -Middle America
                            -Archie Bunker
                            -Walter L. Cronkite, Jr.
     -Edward M. Kennedy
          -Washingtonian magazine article
               -Liberal orientation
                     -New Yorker
               -[Nancy Clinch]
                     -Background
                            -Psychology
               -Kennedy Family
                     -Presidency
                            -Assassination fears
                            -Expectations
               -Harvard University
               -Rugby match, 1954
               -Women
               -Drinking
               -Driving
               -Chappaquiddick
               -Colson’s conversation with the President
                     -Agnew
               -Amanda Burden

Watergate
     -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman, Colson
     -Cover-up
           -Possible revelation
     -Knowledge
           -Ronald L. Ziegler’s possible statement
                 -John N. Mitchell
                                     -14-

           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                              Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. Sept.-08)

                                                       Conversation No. 394-7 (cont’d)

                      -Order
                -Jeb Stuart Magruder
           -Hearsay
           -Magruder
                -Work with Colson
                -Haldeman
                      -Role
                            -Approval
                                  -Hearsay
                -Decisions
           -Decisions
                -Mitchell
                      -Indirect approval
                      -Loss of memory
                      -Colson’s view
                            -Personality
                      -February – April 1972
                      -Preoccupation
                      -Richard G. Kleindienst
                      -Lack of fears
                      -International Telephone and Telegraph [ITT]
                            -The President’s trip to the People’s Republic of China
                             [PRC]
                      -The President’s May 8, 1972 decision
                      -1972 election

Congressional relations
     -Tone
           -White House Staff
                 -The President’s meeting with Haldeman
                        -The President’s previous crises
                 -Ehrlichman
           -Meeting with Congressional leaders
                 -The President’s role compared to White House Staff role
                        -Ehrlichman, Haldeman, Clarke MaGregor, Colson

The President’s schedule
     -Meeting with President of Israel [S. Zalman Shazar]
     -Freshman Congressman reception
           -Handshaking
                                              -15-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Sept.-08)

                                                                Conversation No. 394-7 (cont’d)

                          -Camp David

       Congressional relations
            -Vietnam negotiations
                  -The President’s meeting with Haldeman and Henry A. Kissinger
                        -Treason charge
                        -Colson
                        -US bombing of North Vietnam
                        -Kissinger’s return to Paris
                  -The President’s bipartisan leadership meeting
                        -Instructions for Scali
                               -Transcript
                               -Ziegler’s press conference
                               -US bombing of North Vietnam
                               -White House
                               -Chronology

       Press relations
             -Scali
                    -Meeting with the President
                    -White House
                    -The President’s bipartisan leadership meeting
                         -The President’s remarks

Colson left at 1:02 pm.