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Start Date: 12-Jan-1973 11:55 AM

End Date: 12-Jan-1973 1:55 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Price, Raymond K., Jr.Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

396-007a.mp3

396-007b.mp3

396-007c.mp3

NARA Description:

On January 12, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Raymond K. Price, Jr., and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:55 am to 1:55 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 396-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 396-7

Date: January 12, 1973
Time: 11:55 am - 1:55 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Raymond K. Price, Jr.

       Price's schedule
             -Camp David

       President's schedule
             -Florida

       President's Inaugural speech
             -Theme
             -Quotability
                    -Theodore (“Teddy”) Roosevelt
                    -Lyndon B. Johnson
                    -1968 speech
                         -"Lower our voices"
             -Theme
             -Quotable lines
             -Theme
                    -Vermont Royster
                    -“Reaffirmation of faith”
                    -Blacks
                         -Crime
                    -Overpopulation
                         -Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
                         -Attendant problems
                         -Environment
                         -Cities
                         -Hospital capacity
                               -Congress
                               -Appalachia
                               -Hypochondriacs
                         -Thomas Malthus
                               -President's college professors
                                     -Work and production
                                 -8-

      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. Jan.-09)

                                                  Conversation No. 396-7 (cont’d)

                 -Latin America
                       -Poverty
                 -US agricultural capacity
                       -Food production
-Audience
      -Middle America
             -Rednecks
             -Hard hats
      -Intellectuals
      -Critics of America
-Tone
      -Thoughtful
      -Patriotic
-Foreign policy goals
      -US role in the free world
             -Responsibilities
                   -Burdens
             -United Soviet Socialist Republic [USSR]
             -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
             -Necessity
      -Predatory powers
-Peace
      -U.S. position
-Domestic issues
      -Materialism
             -Values
      -Youth
      -Need for renewal
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Theme
      -Future
             -Problems of the present
      -Past civilizations
             -Military and economic power
             -Loss of spirit
-Franklin D. Roosevelt
-American problems
      -Change
      -Role of leaders
      -Role of the people
                                       -9-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. Jan.-09)

                                                      Conversation No. 396-7 (cont’d)

      -Religious references
            -Inaugural worship service
      -Environmental group's meeting with President
            -Russell Train
      -1970 State of the Union speech
            -Eisenhower
            -Environmental legislation
      -Theme
            -Environment
                  -Government's role
                  -Individual's role

Possible series of Presidential messages
      -Television [TV]
      -Congressional leaders
      -State of the Union Speech
      -Special message to Congress
      -Race relations
      -Benefits

President's Inaugural speech
      -Environment
      -Price's draft
             -Tone
      -Theme
             -US role in the world
                   -Responsibilities
             -Thomas Jefferson
             -Youth
             -US outlook
                   -Compared to France
      -President's 1968 acceptance speech
      -Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln, and
       [Thomas] Woodrow Wilson quotes
      -Message to youth
             -Excitement
             -Special time
      -President's 1972 acceptance speech
      -President’s meetings with chiefs of state
             -Housing, industry [?]
                                    -10-

           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                             Tape Subject Log
                               (rev. Jan.-09)

                                                Conversation No. 396-7 (cont’d)

           -John M. “(Jack”) Lynch
     -US role in the world [?]
     -Next four years
           -Congressional relations
     -Past four years
           -Progress
           -President's trips to PRC and USSR
     -Next four years, next generation
           -Congressional relations
           -Democrats
     -Goals
           -Interest of government
                  -Constitution
     -Theme
           -Hard work
           -Individual responsibility
           -Self-reliance
           -Other ideas
           -Faith [?]
           -Government’s role
           -Public’s role
     -Tone
     -Religious references
           -Faith
     -Philosophy
           -Faith in God
           -Individual responsibility
     -Sentiments to avoid
     -Franklin Roosevelt
     -Charles W. Colson
     -Massachusetts
     -Blacks
     -Vietnam settlement
           -Status
           -Past events
           -Foreign policy
                  -Pride
           -Goals of US

Vietnam settlement
                                 -11-

      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. Jan.-09)

                                            Conversation No. 396-7 (cont’d)

-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Spiro T. Agnew
-Negotiations
      -Congressional relations
-Timing
-Bombing
-Pressure
-Phases
      -Timing
-Congressional relations
      -Spending
-Henry A. Kissinger
      -Schedule
-Haig
      -Schedule
-Kissinger’s briefing
-Congress
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-Prospects for agreement
      -Haig’s meeting with Thieu
-Congress
-Public statements
      -Substance
-Haig’s trip to Saigon
-Thieu's possible position on agreement
      -Congress
      -South Vietnam’s survival
      -Haig meeting
-Possible situation at 1973 Inauguration
      -President's possible statement
             -May 8, 1972 statement
             -Considerations
-Announcement
      -Haig's schedule
             -Thieu
-Possible agreement
      -Demilitarized zone provisions
      -Cease-fire
-South Vietnam
      -Signing
                              -12-

      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                        Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Jan.-09)

                                               Conversation No. 396-7 (cont’d)

-Provisional Revolutionary Government [PRG]
-Cease-fire provisions
-US, PRC, USSR, roles
-South Vietnamese leaders
-Announcements
      -Ronald L. Ziegler
      -Congress
      -William P. Rogers and Melvin R. Laird
             -Response to inquiries
      -Ziegler
      -Haig’s schedule
      -Thieu’s position
      -Kissinger’s schedule
-Understanding
-Ambassador [?]
-President's announcement
-Thieu's position
      -Rogers
      -President's response
      -Effect
      -Haig
      -Congress
             -President's announcement
      -U.S. military response
      -1973 Inauguration
      -Congress
             -Ziegler
             -Robert Vesco
             -Possibilities
             -Public Opinion
-U.S. military response
      -Bombing halt
-Thieu’s cooperation
-South Vietnamese people
-USSR
-US goals
      -Honorable peace
             -Cambodia
             -Laos
             -North Vietnam
                                       -13-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. Jan.-09)

                                                   Conversation No. 396-7 (cont’d)

                 -South Vietnam
     -Thieu’s cooperation
     -U.S. Military Response
           -Bombing
     -1973 Inauguration
           -Situation
           -Announcement
           -Congress

President's inaugural speech
      -Vietnam
      -US role in world
      -Vietnam
      -Challenges of the future
      -Foreign policy
             -US responsibility in peacetime
                  -"Peace with honor"
                  -Wording
                  -Meaning

US foreign policy
     -South Vietnam
           -Thieu
           -Survival
           -US aid
                  -Effect
     -Possible announcement
     -President’s Inaugural speech
           -Peace message
     -PRC, USSR
     -Middle East
     -Nicaragua
           -Earthquake
     -Uganda
     -South Vietnam
           -Continuation of US role
     -Public opinion
     -USSR
           -Anatoliy F. Dobryin
     -Vietnam settlement
                                                -14-

                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Jan.-09)

                                                             Conversation No. 396-7 (cont’d)


       President's Inaugural speech
             -Price’s thoughts

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 11:55 am.

            Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 1:55 pm.

       President's inaugural speech
             -Themes
                    -Future
             -Critics of US
                    -Loss of faith
                    -Vietnam announcement
                    -"New Majority"
                          -Press response
                    -November 3, 1969, and May 8, 1972 speeches
                          -Press response
                          -PRC
                    -Arrogance
                    -Pandering
             -Racial references
             -"One America"
                    -President's 1968 campaign
                          -Blacks, Jews
             -Theme for next four years
                    -Public opinion

       Press relations
             -Price’s views
             -Response to President's actions
                    -Frustration
                    -Moscow summit
                          -May 8, 1972 speech
                    -1972 election
                    -Vietnam negotiations
                          -North Vietnam
                          -Bombing, mining
                                      -15-

            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. Jan.-09)

                                                  Conversation No. 396-7 (cont’d)


President's Inaugural speech
      -Themes
             -Price’s ideas

Press relations
      -Congressional relations
      -Washington Post [?]
             -Edward M. Kennedy [?]
             -Analysis
             -Writing
             -Analysis
      -George S. McGovern
             -Spokesman
                   -Memorandum from Price
                   -Public response
             -Vietnam, busing, welfare
             -Personality
                   -Julie Nixon Eisenhower [?]

Politics
       -Price’s views
       -Government
       -[First name unknown] Berry
              -Book
       -The Best and the Brightest
              -David Halberstam

New era
     -New ideas
     -1970s
          -People's desires
     -1960s
          -Racial unrest
          -Vietnam War
                -Effect

President's accomplishments
      -Revenue sharing
             -Mayors and governors
                                             -16-

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Jan.-09)

                                                          Conversation No. 396-7 (cont’d)

              -Support for the President
                   -1972 election
                   -Richard Daley, Mayor of Chicago

       Nelson A. Rockefeller
            -Kissinger [?]
            -Reagan
            -Winston Churchill
                  -Burdens of leadership

       President's staff
             -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
             -John D. Ehrlichman
             -Kissinger

       The President’s schedule
            -Appointment

       President's Inaugural speech
             -Drafting
             -Camp David

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 11:55 pm.

       Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 1:53 pm.

       The President’s schedule [?]

Price left at 1:55 pm.