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Start Date: 5-Feb-1973 4:10 PM

End Date: 5-Feb-1973 4:46 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Colson, Charles W.Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

408-007.mp3

NARA Description:

On February 5, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:10 pm to 4:46 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 408-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 408-7

Date: February 5, 1973
Time: 4:10 pm - 4:46 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Charles W. Colson.

       Schedule
             -Colson
                    -Trip to the Union of Soviet Republics [USSR]

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 4:10 pm.


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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]

       Schedule
             -Julie Nixon Eisenhower and [Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
                     -Evening plans

[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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Sanchez left at an unknown time before 4:46 pm.

       Colson's trip to the USSR
              -Patricia Colson
              -Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis
                       -Possible article by Colson about trip
                       -Speech material

Sanchez entered at an unknown time before 4:10 pm.


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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]

       Schedule
             -Julie Nixon Eisenhower

[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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Sanchez left at an unknown time before 4:46 pm.

       Colson’s trip to USSR
             -Speech material
             -USSR
                       -People
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                      -Government
                      -Negotiations
                              -Trade
                      -Briefing
                      -Steven Lazarus
                              -Commerce Department
                                     -East-West Trade Center
                              -Ralph Lazarus
                              -Navy Captain
                              -East-West Trade Center
                                     -Vienna, Austria
                                     -Facilities
                                             -State Department
            -Israel
                      -Duration of visit
                      -The President’s opinion
                      -1968 trip to Europe by Colson
                             -Berlin
                                     -East Berlin
                                     -Berlin Wall
                                     -Colson’s son

      The President and Colson’s meeting with Albert E. Sindlinger
             -Herbert C. Hoover story
             -Sindlinger’s attitude
                     -Helpfulness
                     -Prompt inflation
                     -Bias
             -Polling techniques
                     -Reflection of public opinion
                            -Shooting of John C. Stennis
                            -Comparison with White House correspondence analysis
                            -Telephone polling
                            -Vietnam War


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                                                             Conversation No. 408-7 (cont’d)


[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]

       Sindlinger
              -1972 election outcome
                     -The President’s margin of victory
                     -George S. McGovern
                     -1964 election comparison
                             -Barry M. Goldwater, Sr.
                     -McGovern’s supporters
                             -Loyalty
                                    -Bumper stickers
                             -Minority
                                    -Fanaticism
                     -Voter turnout
                     -Sindlinger’s certainty of the President’s margin of victory
                             -Comparison with George H. Gallup and Louis P. Harris

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       Vietnam War
             -Settlement
             -Sindlinger's analysis
                     -Desire for end of war
                            -Hawks
                     -Type of settlement
                            -The President’s critics
                            -The President as “national hero”
                                    -Effect
             -The President as a strong leader
                     -Image
                            -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, other White House staff members

       The President’s Schedule
              -Meetings with Sindlinger
                     -Frequency
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                                    Tape Subject Log
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                                                             Conversation No. 408-7 (cont’d)


                    -Reflection of public opinion
                           -Comparison with Harris, Gallup
                                   -Currency of reports
                                   -Depth
                           -Issues
                                   -Busing
                                   -Budget
                                           -Recommendation of the President's television [TV]
appearence
                                                   -Timing
                                                         -Vietnam settlement
                                  -Spending and economic issues
                                          -Domestic Council
                                          -Sub-standard housing
                                          -Food stamps
                                  -Congress
                                          -Access to interviews in districts
                                          -Change emphasis [?]
                                          -Public reaction
                                          -Standard polls
                                                  -Harris’s reporting of domestic issues
                                  -Vietnam
                                          -Joseph W. Alsop
                                                  -Domestic issues
                                  -Congress
                                          -Washington Post
                                          -New York Times
                                          -Networks
                                          -Pressure groups
                                  -Call to the President
                                  -Article
                                          -Currency

      Polls
              -Sindlinger
              -Use of Harris for polling
                      -Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW]
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                               Tape Subject Log
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              -Vietnam War
                     -Polling techniques
                              -Cease-fire
                              -October 8, 1972 agreement
       -Vietnam War
              -Public relations strategy
                     -Administration accomplishments
                              -“Peace with honor”
                              -Change in world relations
                                      -The Nixon Doctrine
                                             -Post-war period outlook
                                                     -Generation of peace
                     -Compared with Dwight D. Eisenhower
                              -Korean War
                                      -1956 election
                     -Foreign relations
                              -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
                                      -Communication
                                      -Respect

Domestic Issues
      -Role of government
              -Taxes
              -Concentration of power
              -Social programs
                      -School lunch programs
              -Bureaucrats
              -Government waste
      -Social issues
              -Shooting of Stennis
                      -Sindlinger
      -Blacks
      -Whites
              -Middle class
              -Support for the President
              -West
              -Irish-Americans
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               -Italian-Americans
       -Social issues
               -Amnesty for draft dodgers
                       -Law and order
               -Busing
               -Pornography
                       -Marlon Brando
                              -Newsweek, Time articles
                              -Family magazines
                              -Patricia Colson
               -Robert H. Abplanalp's conversation with the President
                       -Public service program
                              -Blacks
                                      -Language
                                      -Robert J. Brown
               -Permissiveness
       -Role of government

Vietnam settlement
      -Antiwar critics
              -Reaction
      -The President's press conference
              -News coverage
                     -Time
                     -Dan Rather
                             -Balance
              -The President's tone, voice
                     -Comparison with Lyndon B. Johnson

Press relations
        -Reporting standards
                -Censorship
                -Double standard
        -White House public relations
                -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                -Richard A. Moore
                -Agreement
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                               Tape Subject Log
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                                                        Conversation No. 408-7 (cont’d)


               -Implementation of policy
       -TV networks
               -Influence
               -CBS affiliate
       -Coverage
               -Watergate issue
               -Vietnam settlement
                       -Antiwar critics
                       -Prisoners of War [POWs] guests
                       -CBS V
                               -New York
       -Strategy
       -John O. Pastore
       -Donald R. Larrabee’s initiation at the National Press Club
               -Democratic Congressmen
               -New York Times piece
                       -Unknown man’s comment
                               -[Unintelligible name]
                       -Fighting back

The President’s supporters
       -William Proxmire
       -Demagogues [?]
       -Proxmire
              -Skills

1972 election
       -“49 state landslide”
               -Mandate
       -Comparison with 1968 election
               -Democrats
                      -Students
       -Post-election plans
               -The President’s opponents

The President’s schedule
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Colson left at 4:46 pm.