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Start Date: 14-Mar-1973 9:50 AM

End Date: 14-Mar-1973 10:50 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ziegler, Ronald L.Dean, John W., IIIMoore, Richard A.Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

419-020a.mp3

419-020b.mp3

NARA Description:

On March 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, John W. Dean, III, Richard A. Moore, and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 9:50 am and 10:50 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 419-020 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 419-20

Date: March 14, 1973
Time: Unknown between 9:50 am and 10:50 am
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Sept-2010)
                                                              Conversation No. 419-20 (cont’d)



Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler and John W. Dean, III.

       Richard A. Moore
            -Attendance at meeting

       Watergate
            -Ziegler's press conference
                  -Time
            -Public statement on Senate questions
                  -Formulation
            -Executive privilege
                  -Henry A. Kissinger
                         -Statements
            -Executive privilege
                  -President's policy
                  -Senate questions
            -Testimony of H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, John D. Ehrlichman and Charles W.
            Colson
                  -Problems
            -John N. Mitchell
            -L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III
                  -Nomination
            -UNINTELLIGIBLE
            -G. Gordon Liddy
                  -Questions

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 9:50 am.

       Refreshments

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 10:50 am.

       Watergate
            -Dean's letter
                 -Subpoena
                 -President's response
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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Sept-2010)
                                                             Conversation No. 419-20 (cont’d)



            -Gray's testimony
                 -Press questions
                 -Position
                 -Confirmation
                         -Timeframe
                         -Watergate

Richard A. Moore entered at an unknown time after 9:55 am.

            -Congressional subpoenas
                  -Advantages to administration
                  -Court fight
                        -Delays
            -Prominence of issue
            -Cover-up money compared to facts
            -White House staff
                  -Vulnerabilities
                        -Haldeman, John N. Mitchell
                        -Ehrlichman
                        -Colson
                        -Haldeman
                        -Mitchell
                  -Responsibilities
                        -Compared to culpability
            -Donald H. Segretti and Dwight L. Chapin
                  -Impact
                        -Damage to administration
            -Public reaction to Watergate
                  -Importance of issue
                        -Level of public suspicion
                               -Haldeman’s, Mitchell’s knowledge
                               -Jeb Stuart Magruder
                               -Cover up money
                                     -Origin
                                     -E. Howard Hunt, Jr.
            -Administration strategy
                  -Consistency with President's statement
                  -Dean
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      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Sept-2010)
                                                 Conversation No. 419-20 (cont’d)



            -Written interrogatories
                  -Answers
-Executive privilege
      -Use
      -Reaction of press
            -Targets
                  -Haldeman
                  -Mitchell
                  -Chapin
                  -Colson
-White House staff
      -Public perceptions of Haldeman, Mitchell
            -Newsweek article
            -Chapin's relation to Haldeman
      -Magruder
            -Relation to Haldeman
      -Haldeman
            -Involvement
                  -Dick Tuck
            -President's security
                  -Demonstrations
                         -Violence
                         -Tuck
                         -Organization
                         -Opposition to George S. McGovern
                         -President's campaign policy on heckling
-Public perceptions
      -White House staff
            -Gordon C. Strachan, Magruder and Chapin
                  -Link to Haldeman
                         -White House response
-Investigation
      -Segretti
            -Gray testimony
      -Chapin, Herbert W. Kalmbach
            -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] report
            -Segretti
            -Allegations of involvement
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      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. Sept-2010)
                                                   Conversation No. 419-20 (cont’d)



                  -Ziegler's response
                        -President's suggestions
-1972 campaign
-Public statements
-Ervin hearings
      -Work with administration
      -Problems
      -President's comments
-Segretti
      -President's knowledge
      -Response to questions
             -Illegal practices
             -Espionage and sabotage
                    -Legality
             -Campaign practices
                    -False mailings
-Demonstrations against President
      -Violence
      -Double standard
-Press questions and the administration's responses
      -Illegal activities
             -Demonstrations
             -Distinction from legal activities
             -Campaign practices
-Election campaign tactics
      -Sabotage and espionage
             -Violations of law
             -Legal acts
             -Demonstrations
                    -Publicity
             -Double standards
-President's press conference questions
      -Answers to questions for President
      -Demonstrations
             -Illegal acts
      -Questions on illegal acts
             -Tuck
      -Dean's report on Watergate
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      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                          Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. Sept-2010)
                                                  Conversation No. 419-20 (cont’d)



      -Campaign ethics
      -Chapin's departure from White House
             -Segretti case
                   -Haldeman's knowledge
                   -Chapin's role
                   -Kalmbach's role
                   -Allegations
                          -Substance
                   -FBI investigation
                          -Campaign activities
                          -Hunt
                          -Liddy
                   -Dean's investigation of FBI files
                   -Illegal acts
-Dean's investigation
      -Segretti
      -Chapin
      -Strachan
      -Segretti
             -Vulnerability
                   -Chapin
                   -Kalmbach
             -FBI investigation
                   -Gray's testimony
                   -Chapin interviewed
             -Activities
                   -Allegations
             -Line of questioning
             -Ziegler's statement
      -Ervin Committee
             -Impartiality
             -Investigation of both sides of campaign
-Public attitudes
      -White House knowledge
             -Dean investigation
             -President's role
             -Watergate break-in
                   -Hunt and Liddy
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Sept-2010)
                                                            Conversation No. 419-20 (cont’d)



                                       -Magruder
                                       -Hugh W. Sloan, Jr.
                                -Dean investigation
             -President's statements for press
                   -Segretti
                          -Overblown rhetoric
                   -Demonstrations
                          -Violence
                          -Double standard of press
                          -Involvement of McGovern supporters
                   -Segretti
                          -Allegations
                          -Ziegler's statement

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:55 am.

       President's next meeting

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:50 am.

       Watergate
            -Ziegler's press conference
                  -Preparation of statement
                  -Ervin Committee
                         -Ziegler's comments
                               -Formulation
            -President's comments
                  -Responsibility for break-in
            -Exploitation by opposition
                  -Rhetoric
            -President's comments to press
            -Gray hearings
            -Robert L. Vesco case
            -Executive privilege
            -White House staff

       President's meeting with Dean and Moore
             -FBI investigation
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Sept-2010)
                                                           Conversation No. 419-20 (cont’d)




Ziegler, Dean and Moore left at 10:50 am.