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Start Date: 8-May-1973 3:00 PM

End Date: 8-May-1973 4:27 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Moore, Richard A.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

433-067a.mp3

433-067b.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 8, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Richard A. Moore met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:00 pm to 4:27 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 433-067 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 433-67

Date: May 8, 1973
Time: 3:00 pm - 4:27 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Richard A. Moore.

     Wedding      

         -President’s telegram

         -Moore’s son        

         -Moore’s daughter       

               -Yale University graduation           

               -Intelligence     


     Watergate      

          -Moore and President        

          -Henry E. Petersen        

                -Conversation with President
                      -Moore        

          -Cover-up       

          -John W. Dean, III’s conversation with President, March 21 

                -E. Howard Hunt, Jr.’s lawyer, William O. Bittman 

                -President’s reaction     

          -Dean       

                -Motivations        

                      -Fear of prison     

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       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                         (rev. March-2011)

                                               Conversation No. 433-67 (cont’d)

                  -Compared to Jeb Stuart Magruder
-La Costa meeting
      -Dean, John D. Ehrlichman, H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, and Moore
      -President’s knowledge
      -President’s desire for full disclosure
            -Dean report       

      -President’s knowledge          

            -Herbert W. Kalmbach and $350,000        

-President’s meeting with Dean, March 21
      -Funds
      -Clemency
      -Duration
-President’s meeting with Moore
      -Dean
      -Ronald L. Ziegler and Dean, ca. March 12
            -Cover-up        

            -Separation of powers          

            -Press conference         

                  -Dr. David K. E. Bruce appointment
      -Meeting with Dean, March 20 

            -William C. Sullivan         

            -Challenge to Senators           

            -Possible statement by President       

      -President’s motives and knowledge       

            -President’s statements to Dean      

            -Moore’s opinion          

-Moore’s conversation with Dean, March 20
      -President’s knowledge
-President’s meeting with Dean and Moore, March 20
      -Executive privilege
      -John N. Mitchell
-Moore’s conversation with Dean
      -Mitchell
      -Previous meeting with President
      -Ehrlichman and Haldeman
      -President’s knowledge
-Dean’s call to Moore
      -President’s call to Dean
            -Dean’s forthcoming meeting with President
-President’s meeting with Dean and Haldeman, March 21
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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                   Tape Subject Log 

                                   (rev. March-2011)

                                                           Conversation No. 433-67 (cont’d)

               -Bittman
         -Dean’s meeting with Moore, March 21
               -Dean’s previous meeting with President
         -Dean       

               -Documentary evidence           

               -Presidency         

         -President’s conversation with Petersen
         -President’s desire for full disclosure 

               -Donald H. Segretti         

               -Haldeman         

         -Clemency
               -President’s discussions with Ehrlichman
               -E. Howard Hunt, Jr.
                     -Sullivan
                     -Timing of request, July 1972
                     -Dorothy Hunt
                           -Death
                     -1972 election
                     -Colson and Ehrlichman
               -President’s discussions with Ehrlichman
                     -Hunt
               -President’s conversation with Colson
                     -Hunt
                     -Dorothy Hunt’s death
         -Dean       

               -Newsweek article 

               -Conversations with Ziegler         

               -Conversations with President         

                     -President’s press conference, August 19, 1972
               -Documents
               -Preparation for Magruder’s testimony
                     -Ehrlichman, Haldeman


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4 

[Statute]

[Duration: 28 s ] 

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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                  Tape Subject Log 

                                  (rev. March-2011)

                                                        Conversation No. 433-67 (cont’d)

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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    Watergate
         -Moore’s meeting with prosecutors 

              -Dean’s meeting with Magruder         

              -La Costa meeting        

              -Prosecutors’ knowledge          

         -La Costa meeting, February 1973 

              -Statement for President       

              -Forthcoming Senate hearings       

                    -Committee to Reelect the President [CRP]
                    -Mitchell
                    -Conduct
                          -Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.     

              -Dean’s statements regarding lawsuits      

                    -Need for money        

                          -Sullivan
         -Moore’s lawyer’s conversation with John J. Wilson and Frank H. Strickler
         -Moore, Haldeman and Ehrlichman
         -Dean
              -Magruder
              -Paul L. O’Brien and Kenneth W. Parkinson
              -Bittman
              -Conversation with President, March 21
                    -$350,000
              -Conversation with Moore, April 1973
                    -$350,000
                    -Garment, April 9 and Horace Chapman (“Chappie”) Rose, April 12


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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]

    [Pause]
                                          -42-


                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                   Tape Subject Log 

                                   (rev. March-2011)

                                                          Conversation No. 433-67 (cont’d)

[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
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    Watergate
         -Moore’s meeting with Rose, April 8 

               -$350,000          

               -Frederick C. LaRue              

               -Dean’s previous conversation with Moore 

         -Dean’s conversation with President, March 21 

               -$350,000          

               -Bittman         

               -$350,000          

                     -Legal opinion regarding intent                

               -Rose        

         -Mitchell, Haldeman, Ehrlichman, and Kalmbach 

               -Intent in raising money              

               -Possible trials          

         -Mitchell        

         -La Costa meetings            

         -Moore’s reaction to break-in 

         -President’s reaction to break-in 

         -Cubans        

               -Democratic Party             

                     -Recognition of Castro               

         -Mitchell’s call, June 18, 1972 

               -Magruder, Cliff Miller              

                     -Watergate break-in               

                              -Associated Press [AP] story            

                                      -CRP involvement            

                                             -James W. McCord, Jr.        

                                                     -Private agency    

         -Moore’s conversation with prosecutors 

               -Moore’s knowledge               

         -Mitchell’s diary          

         -Maurice H. Stans’s concern, Septmeber 1972 

               -Mexican money              

               -Moore’s meeting with Mitchell, LaRue, Robert T. Mardian, Dean, Parkinson, 

                Miller, and Paul L. O’Brien 

                     -Public relations            

                     -Lawrence F. O’Brien’s suit               

                                 -43-

       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                          Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. March-2011)

                                                 Conversation No. 433-67 (cont’d)

            -Powell, Moore               

      -Subsequent meetings               

      -Patman Committee              

      -George S. McGovern                 

      -Frank E. Moss             

-Dwight L. Chapin
      -Compared with Ehrlichman, Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr., and Hunt situation
            -Dr. Lewis Fielding break-in
-President’s knowledge and activities
-Magruder, Mitchell
-Moore’s contacts with Mitchell
-Administration task force to respond to Senate
      -Dean       

      -Wallace Johnson             

      -Patrick J. Buchanan             

      -William E. Timmons                

      -Ehrlichman          

      -Magruder          

-President’s conversation with Petersen
-Moore’s involvement
-Money
-Ehrlichman and Haldeman
      -Knowledge
-Rose
-La Costa meetings
      -Money
      -Stans
-Dean
      -Immunity        

            -Ehrlichman and Haldeman              

            -President’s actions              

                   -Conversation with Petersen      

            -John J. Sirica          

            -Petersen          

            -Ervin Committee                

                   -Sirica         

      -Ervin Committee             

            -Witness schedule               

      -Conversation with President              

            -Money           

                                 -44-

       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                          Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. March-2011)

                                                  Conversation No. 433-67 (cont’d)

            -Million dollars
-President’s subsequent investigation
      -Dean’s report
      -Ehrlichman’s efforts
-Moore’s meeting with Ehrlichman
      -Dean, Moore, and Ziegler meeting
      -President’s desire for full disclosure
            -Possible statement          

      -Moore’s knowledge           

            -Chapin, Gordon Strachan, and Segretti
-Dean
-President’s knowledge of involvement
      -Segretti
      -Mitchell and Magruder
-President’s desire for full disclosure
-Mitchell’s meeting with Ehrlichman, April 14
      -Mitchell’s silence
-$350,000
      -Ehrlichman’s knowledge
-Ehrlichman and Haldeman
      -Departure
      -Due process
-President’s speech [Republican fundraising event]
      -John Andrews [?]
      -President’s role in defense of Haldeman, Ehrlichman, and Mitchell
-McGovern’s comments
-New Majority
      -Ethnics
      -Veterans
-Dean
      -Documents
      -President
-President’s desire for full disclosure
-Dean
      -Conversation with President, March 21 

            -Bittman money           

            -President’s response          

                  -Dean report         

            -President’s speech, March 28        

            -President’s trip to California    

                                 -45-

       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                          Tape Subject Log
                          (rev. March-2011)

                                                Conversation No. 433-67 (cont’d)

                    -John Ford salute
-Jack N. Anderson
-Dean
      -Contacts with prosecutors        

            -Magruder         

            -Lawyer’s negotiations, April 6     

      -Meetings with President        

            -Dean’s possible resignation     

                    -Ehrlichman and Haldeman      

-President’s role
      -Knowledge
      -Cover-up
      -Investigation after March 21
-La Costa meetings
-Money
      -LaRue
      -President’s knowledge of use
      -Haldeman’s handling
            -LaRue
      -President’s knowledge
-Moore
      -Future role on White House staff
            -Rose        

      -Role       

      Haldeman, Ehrlichman, and La Costa 

-Dean
      -Failure to inform President
            -Ehrlichman and Haldeman
      -Meeting with President
-Clemency
      -Conversations with President
      -Mitchell
      -Hunt
-Colson
      -Credibility
      -Faking telegram
      -Conversation with President regarding clemency
            -Hunt’s family situation
      -Rose
-Ervin Committee
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       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                         Tape Subject Log
                         (rev. March-2011)

                                                Conversation No. 433-67 (cont’d)

      -Effect on defendants’ rights           

            -Ehrlichman and Haldeman              

            -Mitchell        

      -Courts       

      -Sirica     

      -Possible injunction        

      -Immunity for Dean          

            -Possible indictments for Haldeman and Ehrlichman
-President’s meeting with Dean, March 21
      -Funds for defendants
            -Mitchell
-Dean
      -Role in cover-up
            -Magruder          

      -Charges against Ehrlichman and Haldeman 

      -Work with Mitchell           

      -Meetings with President              

            -President’s logs             

      -Meeting with President, March 21 

      -Visit to Camp David            

            -Date        

      -Memoranda of conversation [memcons]            

      -Cover-up        

            -President’s knowledge
-President’s meeting with Thomas A. Pappas
      -Ambassador to Greece, Henry Tosca
      -Pappas’s aid to Mitchell
-Dean
      -Conversation with President, March 21 

            -Pappas        

            -Kalmbach           

            -Moore’s advice to Dean             

                  -Hunt         

                  -G[eorge] Gordon Liddy            

                  -McCord          

                  -Mitchell           

                  -Magruder             

-La Costa
-Ehrlichman and Haldeman
      -Knowledge
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                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                        Tape Subject Log 

                                        (rev. March-2011)

                                                              Conversation No. 433-67 (cont’d)

             -President’s previous speech, April 30
             -Dean       

                   -White House response        

                   -Documents        

             -Alger Hiss case
             -White House response        

                   -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] 

                   -Moore, Garment, and Rose         

             -1968 campaign

     President’s schedule        

           -Briefcase     


Moore left at 4:27 pm.