Conversation: 441-009
Prev: 441-008 Next: 441-010Start Date: 4-Jun-1973 10:05 AM
End Date: 4-Jun-1973 11:19 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building
NARA Description:
On June 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 10:05 am and 11:19 am. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 441-009 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 441-9
Date: June 4, 1973
Time: Unknown between 10:05 am and 11:19 am
Location: Executive Office Building
The President met with Stephen B. Bull.
White House tapes
-President’s review of conversations with John W. Dean, III
-February 27th and 28th 1973
-System
-Secrecy
-President’s review
-Purpose
-Possible transcription
-February 27th and 28th 1973
-Time of meeting with Dean
-Bull’s role in playing
-Machine functions
-Bull’s role in playing
The President played a recording of a portion of his meeting with Dean.
[A transcript of the recorded conversation was initially prepared for the Watergate Special
Prosecution Force (WSPF) and can be found in Record Group (RG) 460, Box 172, “Transcript of
a Recording of a Meeting between the President and John Dean on February 28, 1973 from 9:12 to
10:23 a.m.,” pages 1-48; Statement of Information, Book III - Part 1, pages 617-687 (1-71);
Statement of Information, Book VII - Part 4, pages 1751-1754 (43-46); and Statement of
Information, Book VII - Part 4, pages 1780-1782 (59-61). The Nixon Presidential Materials
Staff has reviewed the transcript and has made changes as necessary. This transcript has been
reviewed under the provisions of the Presidential Recordings and Materials Preservation Act of
1974 (PRMPA). The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]
[A transcript of the recorded conversation was also prepared Richard Nixon’s Special White
House Counsel for Watergate Matters and submitted to the Committee on the Judiciary of the
House of Representatives. This transcript can be found in Submission of Recorded Presidential
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Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 441-9 (cont’d)
Conversations (SRPC), pages 76-110 (1-35). Please refer to the RG 460 transcript.]
[See also Conversation No. 865-14]
[Begin transcribed portion]
[Unintelligible]
Executive privilege
John D. Ehrlichman
[End transcribed portion]
The President stopped the recording.
[Resume transcribed portion]
Playing of White House tapes
[End transcribed portion]
Bull left at an unknown time before 10:16 am.
The President resumed playing the recording.
[Resume transcribed portion]
[Unintelligible]
Richard G. Kleindienst
Executive privilege
-Kleindienst
[Unintelligible]
Watergate
-Howard J. Baker, Jr.
-Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. March-2011)
Conversation No. 441-9 (cont’d)
-Ervin Committee
-Information
-Dean, Ehrlichman, H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Investigation
-President’s cooperation
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] inquiry
-John N. Mitchell, Haldeman, Ehrlichman
-Maurice H. Stans
-Possible grand jury testimony
-Charles W. Colson, Haldeman
-Funds
-Donors
-Robert L. Vesco
-President’s brother
-Popular opinion
-Stans
-A libel suit
-Larry O’Brien
-Conversation between Dean and an unknown man
-Stans
-O’Brien’s statement
-Colson
-Threat of lawsuit
-Roland Evans and Robert Novak
-Baker
-Relations with William Timmons
-Lowell P. Weicker, Jr.
-L[ouis]. Patrick Gray, III
-Gray
-Relationship with President
-Compared to President’s relationship with J. Edgar Hoover
-FBI investigation
-Hoover’s running FBI
-Henry Petersen
-Colson
-Campaign finances
-General Accounting Office [GAO] audit of George S. McGovern
-Colson
-Possible activities
-Kleindienst
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Tape Subject Log
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Conversation No. 441-9 (cont’d)
-Interrogatories
Whistle blowers
-Dean’s conversations with an unknown man
-Role
[Unintelligible]
Watergate
-Ervin Committee
-Hearings
-Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy’s role
-Herbert Kalmbach
-Samuel Dash
-Bugging by FBI
-Robert F. (“Bobby”) Kennedy
-President’s place in 1968
-Hoover’s conversation with Patrick Coyne
-Coyne’s subsequent conversation with Nelson Rockefeller
-Rockefeller’s subsequent conversation with Henry A. Kissinger
-Records
-W. Mark Felt
-Hoover’s conversation with President
-Hoover’s conversation with John N. Mitchell
-National Security Council [NSC] - FBI memorandum
-Dick Whelan
-Anna Chennault
-Spiro T. Agnew’s plane
-Dean’s conversation with Mitchell
-Cartha D. DeLoach
-Coyne
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National security]
[Duration: 1 m 10 s ]
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Conversation No. 441-9 (cont’d)
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[End transcribed portion]
The President turned off the recording at an unknown time before 11:19 am.
Bull [?] entered at an unknown time after 10:16 am.
[Resume transcribed portion]
White House tape
Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
[End transcribed portion]
Bull [?] left at an unkown time before 11:19 am.