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Start Date: 4-Jun-1973 6:04 PM

End Date: 4-Jun-1973 7:47 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Bull, Stephen B.Ziegler, Ronald L.Sanchez, Manolo

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

442-049a.mp3

442-049b.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 4, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 6:04 pm to 7:47 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 442-049 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 442-49

Date: June 4, 1973
Time: 6:04 pm - 7:47 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Stephen B. Bull and Ronald L. Ziegler.

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was initially prepared for the
Watergate Special Prosecution Force (WSPF) and can be found in Record Group (RG) 460, Box
172, “Transcript Prepared by the Impeachment Inquiry Staff for the House Judiciary
Committee…,” pages 60-124 (.pdf pages 64-129). The Nixon Presidential Materials Staff
reviewed the transcript and made changes as necessary. This transcript has been reviewed under
the provisions of the Presidential Recordings and Materials Preservation Act of 1974 (PRMPA).
 The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[Begin transcribed portion]

Bull left at an unknown time before 7:47 pm.

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 6:04 pm.
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                     (rev. February-2011)

                                                            Conversation No. 442-49 (cont’d)


Sanchez left at an unknown time before 7:47 pm.

Bull entered at an unknown time after 6:04 pm.

[End transcribed portion]

     White House tapes
          -Review      

               -Difficulty     

               -Sequence [?]      

               -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman            


[Resume transcribed portion]

[End transcribed portion]

     White House tapes
          -Review
               -Bull
                     -Transcription

[Resume transcribed portion]

Bull left at an unknown time before 7:47 pm.

[End transcribed portion]


*****************************************************************

BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 

[National security]

[Duration: 28 s ] 



     SURVEILLANCE
                                             -45-


                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                     (rev. February-2011)

                                                            Conversation No. 442-49 (cont’d)



END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 


***************************************************************** 


[Resume transcribed portion] 


[End transcribed portion] 


      Supreme Court
           -William J. Brennan, Jr., Thurgood Marshall
           -Potter Stewart
           -Byron R. (“Whizzer”) White, Harry S. Blackmun
           -William H. Rehnquist, Lewis F. Powell, Jr., Warren E. Burger
           -Jews

[Resume transcribed portion]

[End transcribed portion]

      Executive Office of the President
           -Jews
                 -Leaks

[Resume transcribed portion]

[End transcribed portion]

      Watergate
           -Kleindienst
                 -President’s recommendation

[Resume transcribed portion]

[End transcribed portion]
                                               -46-


                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                     (rev. February-2011)

                                                             Conversation No. 442-49 (cont’d)

     Watergate
          -President’s conversation with Dean
                -Cooperation
                -L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III and Richard G. Kleindienst
                -Gray’s nomination
                      -Alternatives
                            -Police officer

[Resume transcribed portion]

Bull entered at an unknown time after 6:04 pm.

Bull left at an unknown time before 7:47 pm.

[End transcribed portion]

     Watergate     

          -Kenneth S. Rietz    

               -[Unknown employee]        

                     -College    

               -Questions-and-answer session           

                     -Newsweek

               -[Unknown woman]        


[Resume transcribed portion]

[End transcribed portion]

     Watergate
          -President’s conversation with Dean
                -William H. Sullivan
                -Haldeman [?]
                -Ervin Committee [?]
                -Gray’s confirmation hearings
                -Dean’s investigation
          -Public relations [PR]      

                -Dean       

                                                -47-


                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                     (rev. February-2011)

                                                               Conversation No. 442-49 (cont’d)


[Resume transcribed portion] 


Bull entered at an unknown time after 6:04 pm.


Bull left at an unknown time before 7:47 pm.


[End transcribed portion] 


      Watergate
           -President’s conversation with Dean
                 -Report
                       -Television [TV] [?]
                             -Ervin Committee [?]

[Resume transcribed portion]

[End transcribed portion]

      Watergate
           -Cover-up
                -President’s role
                      -Legal culpability [?]

[Resume transcribed portion]

Bull entered at an unknown time after 6:04 pm.

Bull left at an unknown time before 7:47 pm.

[The transcript contains segments listed out of order on pages 106-107 (.pdf pages 111-112).]

Bull entered at an unknown time after 6:04 pm.

Bull left at an unknown time before 7:47 pm.

[End transcribed portion]
                                             -48-


                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                     (rev. February-2011)

                                                             Conversation No. 442-49 (cont’d)


      Watergate      

           -Archibald Cox        

                 -Possible intentions concerning President    

                       -Perjury       

                       -Embarrassment        

           -Ervin Committee         

                 -“Show trial”        

                       -Charles A. Wright       

                             -Paper      


[Resume transcribed portion]

[End transcribed portion]

Ziegler left at 7:47 pm.