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Start Date: 13-Jun-1973 11:45 AM

End Date: 13-Jun-1973 1:29 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Buzhardt, J. Fred, Jr.Sanchez, Manolo[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

445-006a.mp3

445-006b.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr., Manolo Sanchez, and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 11:45 am to 1:29 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 445-006 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 445-6

Date: June 13, 1973
Time: 11:45 am - 1:29 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr.

       Press relations        

               -Vietnam agreement          

                       -Paris      

               -President’s speech on nation’s economy 


       Watergate       

             -Popular opinion         

                    -Maurice H. Stans        

             -Ervin Committee
                    -President’s forthcoming meeting with Leonid I. Brezhnev
                    -Attack on President
                    -Agreement
             -John W. Dean, III 

                    -Cross-examination         

                    -Opening statement         

                           -Duration
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                                                               Conversation No. 445-6 (cont’d)

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 11:45 am.

       Delivery

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 1:29 p.m.

       Buzhardt’s schedule

       Watergate
             -Dean
                      -Credibility
                      -Contacts with L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III and Henry E. Petersen
                      -White House response
                      -Forthcoming trial
                      -Transactional immunity
                             -Archibald Cox
                             -Possible evidence against President
                      -Possible evidence
                             -Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
                             -John D. Ehrlichman
                             -Samuel Dash
                             -Documents
                             -Tapes of Ehrlichman
                      -Ehrlichman’s investigation
                      -Statements concerning Ehrlichman, H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                             -Mary McGrory interview
                      -Forthcoming cross-examination
                             -Buzhardt’s preparation
                             -Chronology
                                     -Haldeman, Ehrlichman
                                     -President’s meetings with Dean
                                            -Dates

An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 11:45 am.

       President’s briefcase       

              -Oval Office        

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The unknown man left at an unknown time before 1:29 pm.

      Watergate        

            -President’s notes, Haldeman conversations 

            -Dean         

                   -Contacts with Ehrlichman
                            -President’s instructions concerning investigation
                            -Contacts with President
                                   -February 27, 1973
                                           -Richard G. Kleindienst
                                           -John N. Mitchell
            -Minority counsel for Ervin Committee
                   -Kleindienst
                            -Testimony
                                   -Mitchell
                   -Ehrlichman, Haldeman
                   -Kenneth Keating
                   -Edmund G. (“Pat”) Brown
            -Mitchell, Ehrlichman
            -President’s recollection
                   -Dean
                   -February 27, 1973 meeting with President
                            -President’s knowledge
                            -Ervin Committee
                            -Hiss case
                            -Leaks
                            -Wiretaps
                                   -Henry Brandon
                                   -Joseph C. Kraft
                            -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
                                   -Leaks
                                   -William H. Sullivan
                                   -Records
                            -President’s notes
                            -FBI
                                   -Sullivan
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                                      -Records
                                 -Gray
                                 -Effect of possible investigation
                         -A Navy yeoman [Radford]
                         -Executive privilege
                         -Ehrlichman, Haldeman
                         -Executive privilege
                         -Kleindienst
                         -Ervin Committee
                         -Break-in
                  -February 28, 1973 meeting with President
                         -Ervin Committee hearings
                         -White House staff involvement
                         -Gray
                                 -Testimony
                         -Charles W. Colson
                         -Dean
                         -Cover-up
                         -Ervin
                         -Dash
                                 -John F. Kennedy or Robert F. Kennedy
                         -Bugging
                                 -Lyndon B. Johnson and Robert F. Kennedy
                                 -1968
                                 -FBI
                                 -Sullivan


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 

[National security]

[Duration: 6 s ] 

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END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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      Watergate       

            -President’s recollection        

                   -February 28, 1973 meeting with President 

                           -Bugging
                                   -1968 bugging
                                   -Sentencing of burglars
                                   -Federal Judges
                                   -Sullivan
                                   -Burglars
                                           -E. Howard Hunt, Jr.
                                                   -Wife
                                           -Possible clemency
                                   -Donald H. Segretti
                                   -Herbert W. Kalmbach
                                           -San Clemente
                                           -Samuel Dash [?]
                                                   -Witness
                                   -Ervin Committee hearings
                                           -Howard H. Baker’s possible handling
                   -March 1, 1973 meeting with President
                           -President’s forthcoming press conference
                           -Gray
                                   -Testimony
                                   -Availability of raw files
                                           -Bella S. Abzug
                           -Possible report
                           -Daniel L. Schorr
                           -Bugging
                                   -1968 campaign plane
                                   -Cartha D. DeLoach
                                   -Effect on FBI of possible revelations
                           -Dean’s investigation
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                                                               Conversation No. 445-6 (cont’d)

                           -Gray’s investigation
                           -Hiss case
                     -March 6, 1973 meeting with President
                           -Gray
                                   -Kleindienst
                           -Statement on executive privilege
                           -Sullivan
                     -March 7, 1973 meeting with President
                           -Gray
                                   -1968 bugging

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 11:45 am.

       Matches

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 1:29 pm.

       Watergate        

             -Dean        

                     -March 7, 1973 meeting with President
                            -Gray
                            -FBI leaks
                            -Lie-detector tests
                            -Dean’s contacts with Gray
                            -Jerry V. Wilson
                            -Civil suit
                     -March 8, 1973 meeting with President
                            -Forthcoming press conference
                            -Duration
                            -Henry A. Kissinger’s presence
                            -Dwight L. Chapin
                            -Gray
                     -March 10, 1973 telephone conversation with President
                     -March 13, 1973 meeting with President and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                            -Forthcoming press conference
                            -Colson
                                    -Future role with administration
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                                                          Conversation No. 445-6 (cont’d)

                         -Kenneth S. Rietz
                         -Attacks on President
                         -Mitchell [?]
                         -Briefing Book for press conference
                                 -Ronald L. Ziegler
                                 -Haldeman
                         -Release of Dean report
                         -Sullivan


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 

[National security]

[Duration: 7 s ] 


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

*****************************************************************


      Watergate      

            -Dean         

                   -March 13, 1973 meeting with President and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                            -FBI
                            -Dean’s possible response to Ervin Committee
                            -Gray, Jerry Wilson
                                   -Nomination
                                          -Compared to Kleindienst [?]
                            -Chapen [?]
                            -Hugh W. Sloan, Jr.
                            -Kalmbach
                                   -Ronald Ziegler’s statement
            -President’s legal work        

                   -Frank DeMarco, Jr., President         

                   -Kalmbach           

                   -New York firm

                              -16-

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                                                Conversation No. 445-6 (cont’d)

               -John H. Alexander       

        -Kalmbach         

               -Ziegler       

        -New York firm, Kalmbach’s firm

        -White House        

        -New York firm

        -Donation of President’s papers     

-Dean
        -March 13, 1973 meeting with President and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
              -Jeb Stuart Magruder
                      -Subornation of perjury
                              -President’s deniability
              -Sentences of burglars
                      -Judge John J. Sirica
              -Ervin Committee            

                      -Targets of investigation        

                      -Haldeman           

                      -Chapin         

              -Gordon Strachan            

                      -Knowledge            

                      -Haldeman’s problem

              -Colson’s relationship with Hunt           

              -Mitchell         

                              -Knowledge
              -Release of truth
              -Ehrlichman
              -White House staff knowledge of burglary of Democratic National
               Committee [DNC]

                      -Strachan         

                      -[Transcripts]          

              -Sullivan         

                      -Chappaquiddick           

                      -Possible testimony           

              -Kalmbach
              -Bugging          

                      -Sullivan [?]

                      -National security          

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                                        Conversation No. 445-6 (cont’d)

 -March 14, 1973 meeting with President and Richard A. Moore 

       -President’s dictating habits        

       -President’s forthcoming press conference       

 -March 15, 1973 meeting with President and Moore 

       -President’s previous press conference        

       -Hiss case        

 -March 16, 1973 meeting with President 

       -FBI files       

               -Possible release       

       -Dean report          

       -President’s possible suspicions          

 -Haldeman and Ehrlichman
 -March 16, 1973 meeting with President 

       -Need for truth          

       -Mitchell, Magruder          

       -Release of truth          

       -Dash        

               -Haldeman, Ehrlichman            

       -Visit to Camp David by Dean and Moore 

       -Mitchell         

       -Ziegler       

       -1968 bugging           

               -Kleindienst’s view        

       -Mitchell, Colson, Haldeman            

       -Magruder           

               -Possible testimony
       -White House staff knowledge of burglary of DNC
               -Strachan
       -Magruder
               -G[eorge] Gordon Liddy
       -Haldeman’s knowledge
               -Magruder
       -Ervin Committee hearings
               -Possible White House staff testimony
                      -Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Dean
               -Magruder, Sloan
                      -Possible testimony
                       -18-

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                                        Conversation No. 445-6 (cont’d)

                              -Haldeman’s involvement
        -Ehrlichman
               -Break-in of Daniel Ellsberg’s doctor’s office
                        -Dean’s assertion
        -Liddy
               -Strachan
               -Conversation with Dean concerning White House staff
                 knowledge of DNC burglary
        -Break-in of Ellsberg’s doctor’s office        

               -President’s reaction               

               -Picture of Liddy             

 -March 20, 1973 meeting with President and Moore 

        -President’s notes        

        -Written interrogatories           

        -William O. Bittman             

               -Counteroffensive               

        -Mitchell          

               -Grand jury           

        -Lyndon B. Johnson             

        -Robert L. Vesco         

               -Murray Chotiner, George Smathers           

        -Edward J. Gurney’s press conference           

        -White House response             

               -Ziegler        

        -Segretti        

               -Debriefing by Dean                 

        -Moore’s response           

        -Need for statement           

 -Phone conversations with President
 -March 20, 1973 meeting with President and Moore 

        -Prisoners of War [POWs]                 

        -Kleindienst         

        -Sentencing of burglars           

        -Moore         

               -Statement         

                        -Grand jury             

        -White House staff involvement               

                       -19-

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                                        Conversation No. 445-6 (cont’d)

                -Strachan
 -March 21, 1973 meeting with President and Haldeman 

        -“Cancer on the Presidency”            

        -Funds for defendants          

                -Haldeman          

                -Ehrlichman          

                -Kalmbach          

                -William O. Bittman           

                -Haldeman’s entrance             

                -$120,000          

                -$1,000,000          

        -Haldeman’s recollections          

        -Funds for defendants          

                -Washing money           

                       -Cuban committee                

        -Clemency offer          

        -Funds for defendants          

                -Washing money
                       -Cuban committee                

        -Clemency offer          

        -Funds for defendants          

                -Hunt        

                -Haldeman          

                -President’s response          

                       -Dean’s forthcoming meeting with Haldeman,
                        Ehrlichman and Mitchell
 -March 21, 1973 meeting with President, Haldeman, and Ehrlichman
        -Content
        -Dean’s previous meeting with Mitchell, Magruder [?], Ehrlichman
         and Haldeman 

                -Mitchell’s knowledge              

 -Mitchell        

        -Conversations with President              

                -William P. Rogers          

 -President’s conversations, March 1973              

        -Kleindienst, Petersen         

                -President’s subsequent conversations with Dean,      

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                                         Conversation No. 445-6 (cont’d)

                Ehrlichman, Haldeman 

 -Dean        

        -Conversations with Prosecutors
                 -Magruder
                 -Break-in of Ellsberg’s psychiatrist’s office
                 -Immunity
                        -Buzhardt’s conversation with Peterson
 -Ellsberg break-in          

        -Petersen’s possible knowledge          

        -Photograph             

                 -Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
                 -Dr. Lewis Fielding’s office
                 -Hunt’s story
                        -Liddy         

        -Release of information          

                 -Petersen        

 -Petersen         

        -Contacts with President           

 -Robert E. Cushman, Jr.           

        -Prior relationship with Hunt         

                 -CIA          

 -Hunt         

 -Mitchell         

        -March 22, 1973 conversation with President, Ehrlichman,
         Haldeman
                 -Records
 -Bittman
        -President’s conversations with Dean after James W. McCord, Jr.’s
         March 23, 1973 statement
                 -Hunt
                        -Ellsberg case
 -Hunt         

        -Dirty tricks          

        -Plumbers          

                 -President’s conversations with Ehrlichman
        -$1,000,000
                 -Dean’s possible statements
                          -21-

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                                             Conversation No. 445-6 (cont’d)

                        -Possible White House response
        -President’s conversation with Haldeman
                -Haldeman’s meeting with Dean and Mitchell
                        -Content
 -Bittman         

        -Possible immunity           

        -Conversation with Colson concerning clemency               

                -Colson’s conversations with President
                        -Hunt’s wife’s death
        -Gerald Alch’s testimony             

                -Effect on Bittman             

                -Money and clemency for burglars              

 -Clemency           

        -Colson, Bittman           

        -Ehrlichman          

        -Dean’s instructions to John Caulfield          

                -Hunt, McCord            

        -President’s conversations with Ehrlichman              

 -Dean       

        -April 1973 conversations with President            

                -Bittman         

                        -Payments [?]            

                        -Legal liability            

                -Intent of fund-raisers            

        -April 16, 1973 meeting with President 

                -Resignation           

                        -Haldeman, Ehrlichman             

 -Petersen         

                -Conversations with President          

 -Resignations of Haldeman, Ehrlichman and Dean 

 -Dean       

        -Conversations with President                

                -Petersen        

                -Dean’s meetings           

                        -Liddy, Haldeman
                        -Lt. Gen. Vernon A. Walters
                        -Magruder
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                                         Conversation No. 445-6 (cont’d)

                -Ehrlichman’s instructions to Kalmbach
                -Haldeman and $350,000
                -March 21, 1973
                       -Haldeman
                       -Break-ins
                -Dean’s involvement
                -Clemency offer, subornation of perjury
                -Funds for defendants
                       -Bittman
                -President’s call from Florida
                -Bittman
                -March 21, 1973
                       -Thomas A. Pappas and Mitchell
                               -Martha Mitchell
                               -Haldeman’s knowledge
                       -President’s methodology
                       -President’s response
 -Ehrlichman         

        -Turning over of notes           

        -Moore [?]         

 -Cox
        -Requests        

                -Documents           

                -Petersen and executive privilege       

                       -Kleindienst
                -Tape of President’s conversation with Dean
                       -Peterson’s review
                       -Misunderstanding
                       -President’s dictation
                -Inventory of files        

                -Kleindienst, Petersen         

                       -Documents            

                -President’s appointment logs        

        -Documents           

                -Specificity        

 -President’s tapes        

        -Ehrlichman, Colson            

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                                          Conversation No. 445-6 (cont’d)

         -Telephone conversations               

         -Locations         

 -Cox        

         -Requests        

                 -Ehrlichman’s tapes                

                 -Notes         

                 -Ehrlichman’s tapes                

                        -Content            

                 -Possible confrontation              

                        -Timing            

                                  -Dean’s Ervin Committee testimony     

 -Dash         

         -Possible requests          

 -Cox        

         -Knowledge of case            

         -Possible indictments           

                 -Dean         

                 -Magruder          

 -Dean         

         -Forthcoming Ervin Committee testimony              

                 -Goal        

                 -Statement         

                 -Cross-examination               

                 -Goal        

                        -Content
                 -Conversations with President and Ehrlichman, Haldeman,
                  or Moore
                        -Possible perjury
                 -Possible effect
         -Possible statements concerning Bittman           

                 -Mitchell’s role in fund-raising        

                 -Buzhardt’s speculation               

         -Possible fund-raising           

                 -Maurice H. Stans              

                 -Pappas          

                        -Mitchell            

                 -Frederick LaRue              

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                                                               Conversation No. 445-6 (cont’d)

                             -Funds for defendants
                                     -Fred Fielding’s testimony
                             -Possible immunity
                                     -Cox
                                     -Sirica
                                     -Cox
                                     -Effect
                                             -Dean’s lawyers
                             -Ehrlichman and Haldeman
                             -Relationship with Mitchell
                                     -Gray
                                     -Peterson
                      -Results of DNC burglary
                             -Conversations with Ehrlichman
                             -Strachan, Haldeman
                      -Dean
                             -Strategy
                                     -Immunity
                             -Lawyer’s motions in court, June 12, 1973
                                     -Sirica’s response
                                     -May 22, 1973 letter from prosecutors
                             -Forthcoming Ervin Committee testimony
                                     -Goal
                             -Offers to prosecutors
                                     -Dr. Fielding break-in, lockbox
                                     -President’s knowledge of coverage
                             -Phone conversations with President
                                     -President’s records
                      -Haldeman’s phone records

Buzhardt left at 1:29 pm.
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