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Start Date: 14-Jun-1973 4:15 PM

End Date: 14-Jun-1973 5:58 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Buzhardt, J. Fred, Jr.Ziegler, Ronald L.[Unknown person(s)]Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Old Executive Office Building

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446-006a.mp3

NARA Description:

On June 14, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr., Ronald L. Ziegler, unknown person(s), and Henry A. Kissinger met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 4:15 pm to 5:58 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 446-006 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 446-6

Date: June 14, 1973
Time: 4:15 pm - 5:58 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with J. Fred Buzhardt, Jr.

       President’s schedule
              -President’s speech on national economy, June 13, 1973
                      -Significance
                      -Public reception
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                                                       Conversation No. 446-6 (cont’d)

Vietnam negotiations
      -Henry A. Kissinger
      -Media coverage

Economic reports
      -Media coverage

Watergate
      -Ervin Committee hearings
              -Jeb S[tuart] Magruder
                      -Veracity
              -Gordon Strachan           

                      -Possible immunity           

                      -Possible testimony          

                             -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman’s knowledge of cover-up
      -John D. Ehrlichman
              -Memorandum to David R. Young, Jr.
                      -Daniel Ellsberg’s file
              -Buzhardt’s conversation with John W. Wilson
                      -Young’s testimony
      -Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr. 

              -Forthcoming grand jury testimony           

              -Ehrlichman’s memo

      -John W. Dean, III
              -Interview June 14, 1973 with Fred Thompson and Samuel Dash
                      -Conversations with President concerning civil suit
                             -Judge Charles Richey
                                      -Unnamed lawyers
                                      -Dean’s June 15, 1972 meeting with President
                                               -Haldeman’s notes
              -September 15, 1972 conversation with President and Haldeman
                      -Lawrence F. O’Brien and the Internal Revenue Service [IRS]
                      -President’s civil suit, Judge Richey
                      -[Henry] Roemer McPhee
                             -Dwight D. Eisenhower administration          

                      -Edward A. McCabe              

      -McPhee and McCabe             

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    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

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                                               Conversation No. 446-6 (cont’d)

-Dean
       -Interview, June 14, 1973
               -Thompson
-Strachan
       -Ervin Committee          

               -Immunity        

               -Haldeman’s knowledge of break-in        

       -Contacts with President
-Haldeman
       -Conversations with President concerning cover-up
       -Conversation with John Wilson
               -Budget
-Strachan
       -Knowledge of cover-up
-Haldeman’s and Ehrlichman’s possible public statements
-Haldeman
       -Forthcoming Ervin Committee interview         

               -Frank H. Strickler      

               -Dean conversation March 21, 1973 with President 

                      -William O. Bittman
-Dean
       -Handling of funds
-$350,000
       -Haldeman
               -$22,000 to Charles Colson
       -Maurice H. Stans’s testimony concerning Strachan
               -Frederic C. LaRue
-Colson’s $22,000
       -Remainder
               -Advertisements
                      -Number
               -W. Richard Howard’s conversation with Strachan
               -Dean
                      -Handling
               -Amount
-Haldeman
       -Testimony
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                                                              Conversation No. 446-6 (cont’d)

                               -March 21, 1973 meeting
                               -Wilson
              -Mitchell
                      -March 22, 1973 meeting with Haldeman
                             -Haldeman’s notes
                             -Full disclosure
              -Full disclosure        

                      -Colson’s view         

                      -President’s view        

                             -Dean’s response
                             -Public relations

Ronald L. Ziegler talked with the President between 4:31 pm and 4:32 pm.

[Conversation No. 446-6A]

[Begin telephone conversation]

[See Conversation No. 40-114]

[End telephone conversation]

       Watergate
             -Strachan
                    -Compared to Dean and Magruder
                    -Response to Magruder’s testimony
                    -Possible testimony concerning Haldeman
                           -Lowell P. Weicker, Jr.
                                    -Source
                    -Possible immunity
             -White House response          

                    -Cross-examination        

                    -Cabinet         

                    -Buzhardt          

                           -Carl T. Curtis
                           -Strom Thurmond
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                                                          Conversation No. 446-6 (cont’d)

Ziegler entered at 4:34 pm.

       Watergate       

             -White House response           

                    -Buzhardt          

                             -Barry Goldwater       

                    -Congress
                             -William E. Timmons’s efforts
                             -Curtis, Goldwater
                             -John C. Stennis
                                     -Operation
                             -Goldwater
                    -President’s activities
                             -Leonid I. Brezhnev
                    -Dean’s forthcoming testimony
                             -White House response
             -Ehrlichman
                    -Memorandum concerning covert activities
                             -National security
             -Strachan
                    -Possible Ervin Committee testimony concerning Haldeman
             -Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
             -Magruder
                    -Ervin Committee testimony, June 14, 1973
                    -Contacts with President
                    -Alleged conversation with Haldeman, January 1973
             -Strachan
                    -Possible Ervin Committee testimony concerning Haldeman
             -Response to break-in
                    -President, Ziegler
                    -White House staff involvement
                    -Committee to Re-elect the President [CRP]
                             -Magruder          

             -Magruder          

             -Henry E. Petersen          

                    -Conversations with President
                             -Bittman and Blackmail
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                                                Conversation No. 446-6 (cont’d)

       -Possible testimony
              -L[ouis] Patrick Gray               

       -Dean’s role on White House staff 

       -Conversations with President                

              -Dean
              -Firing of Haldeman and Ehrlichman
                       -William P. Rogers’s views
       -Possible testimony
-Cover-up
       -President’s conversations with Petersen             

              -Bittman          

              -Grand jury           

              -Wilson’s request of President              

                       -Haldeman and Ehrlichman charges
              -National security            

                       -Ellsberg break-in              

                       -Ziegler       

-Dean
       -Handling of remainder of Colson’s $22,000, June 1972 

              -Joe Baroody [?]            

              -Strachan           

-Haldeman
       -$350,000
-President
       -Conversations concerning money
-Dean
       -Handling of funds
              -Cross-examination                

       -Possible transactional immunity                

       -Possible evidence against             

              -Magruder’s grand jury testimony                

              -John J. Caulfield’s testimony             

                       -Clemency offer               

       -Immunity         

              -Archibald Cox            

       -Prosecutors’ views concerning evidence against President 

       -Response to President’s statement concerning immunity 

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                                              Conversation No. 446-6 (cont’d)

       -Conversation with President concerning resignation
       -Meetings with President, Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Richard A. Moore
                -Immunity
-President’s notes
       -Moore’s recollections
                -1968 bugging
                       -William C. Sullivan Cartha D. DeLoach
-Strachan
       -Possible Ervin Committee testimony concerning Haldeman
-Dean
       -Conversations with President
                -White House staff involvement
                       -Strachan, Haldeman
                -March 21, 1973
                       -Haldeman’s notes, President’s notes
                       -$350,000
                       -Ehrlichman
                                -Herbert W. Kalmbach
                       -Self-incrimination
                       -Involvement
       -Cross-examination
                -Dash        

       -Dash’s view           

       -White House response            

-Dash
       -Possible conversation with Leonard Garment
-Lawyers
       -David Shapiro, Bittman
       -Colson
-Ethnic affinities
-Congressional response
       -Senators
-Republicans
       -Bryce N. Harlow
       -Timmons, Tom C. Korologos
       -Edward J. Gurney
                -Comments concerning Ervin and President
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    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

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                                              Conversation No. 446-6 (cont’d)

-President
       -Tenure in office
       -March 21, 1973 meeting with Dean
               -Blackmail
                      -Bittman
               -Clemancy offer
-John N. Mitchell
       -Funds for defendants         

               -Conversation with Moore              

               -Burglars’ jail terms       

-E. Howard Hunt, Jr.
-Mitchell
-Dean
       -March 21, 1973 meeting with President and Haldeman 

       -Blackmail         

       -Haldeman’s possible testimony              

       -Petersen’s possible statement          

-Funds for defendants
       -Bittman
       -Cessation of payment
               -Date
       -Dean’s conversation with President               

               -White House response             

               -President’s reporting to Petersen          

               -President’s response         

               -Dean’s possible testimony              

-Strachan
       -Possible Ervin Committee testimony
               -Haldeman’s knowledge of cover-up
-Funds for defendants
       -Ehrlichman’s conversation with Herbert W. Kalmbach
               -Haldeman
-Kalmbach
       -Meeting with President, July 1972
               -Funds for defendants
                      -Ehrlichman
-Ervin Committee hearings
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           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                              Tape Subject Log
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                                                       Conversation No. 446-6 (cont’d)

              -Duration
                     -Testimony of Haldeman and Ehrlichman
              -Mitchell
              -Stans
              -Mitchell’s possible testimony
              -Dean
                     -Forthcoming cross-examination
                             -President’s role in Hiss case

Hiss case
       -Alger Hiss
       -President’s legal background
       -Whittaker Chambers
              -Book Witness

              -James J. Kilpatrick’s column


Watergate
      -Dean         

              -Possible appellations       

              -March 20, 1973 conversation with President 

                      -Moore
                      -White House staff involvement
              -Forthcoming cross-examination
                      -Conversations with Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI],
                       President, Petersen
                      -Conversations with Ehrlichman
                             -Ehrlichman’s contacts with Gray, Petersen
                      -Conversations with Ehrlichman, Petersen, Gray
       -Petersen        

              -Conversation with President concerning suspicions 

              -Suspicions         

                      -Ehrlichman’s call concerning Stans’s subpoena
                      -Dean
       -Dean        

              -Petersen’s view         

              -Purpose of meetings with Petersen 

       -Gray
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    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

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                                                  Conversation No. 446-6 (cont’d)

        -Forthcoming testimony         

        -Contacts with President        

               -FBI investigation         

        -Destruction of documents           

               -Effect         

               -Richard G. Kleindienst, Ehrlichman, President         

               -Knowledge of contents         

                       -Ehrlichman          

               -Fred F. Fielding       

               -Dean         

                       -Statements to Ehrlichman, Petersen and Earl J. Silbert
               -Fielding’s statement
               -Contents
        -Ehrlichman’s alleged orders
-Dean
      -Documents at Camp David             

              -Secretary         

              -Hunt, G. Gordon Liddy             

              -Memoranda from files            

                     -Political intelligence from George McGovern’s secret
                      service guard
      -Memoranda of conversations [memcons]            

              -Mitchell, Magruder, Haldeman meeting         

              -Meeting with Quigley [first name unknown] 

              -Meetings with President             

              -Motives        

      -Motives        

      -Effect of James McCord’s letter 

      -Call from Ziegler          

      -Conversations with President           

              -President’s response
              -Committee to Re-elect the President [CRP] involvement
                     -Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Colson, Dean
              -CRP staff involvement
-CRP staff involvement
      -Clark MacGregor
-Magruder
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                      Tape Subject Log 

                                       (rev. April-2013)

                                                               Conversation No. 446-6 (cont’d)

                      -Dean’s comments concerning testimony
              -Dean
                      -Ervin Committee testimony
                      -Ervin Committee interview, June 14, 1973
                             -Conversations with President concerning civil cases
                                    -Judge Richey
                             -Richey’s response
                      -Conversation with President concerning civil cases
                             -Possible date
                             -Haldeman’s notes
                                    -Richey
                             -Possible date
                             -Richey
                             -Motives
                      -Lawyers goals
                      -Dash’s views
                             -Conversation with Garment
                      -Forthcoming cross-examination
                             -Thompson, Dash

Buzhardt left at 5:33 pm.

       Henry A. Kissinger
             -Congressional briefings, June 14, 1973
                     -Position
                     -Ministers
                     -San Clemente

       Rose Mary Woods 

             -Title      

             -Work         

                    -Review of President’s speeches

       Watergate      

             -Dean       

             -Haldeman        

                   -Strachan’s possible testimony
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


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                                      (rev. April-2013)

                                                            Conversation No. 446-6 (cont’d)

              -Magruder
                     -Ervin Committee testimony, June 14, 1973
                             -President’s knowledge
                             -Press coverage
              -Strachan
              -Dean        

                     -Huston plan documents          

                     -White House response         

                     -Possible press response        

                             -Dash

       National economy          

              -President’s program

              -Response         

                     -Controversy        

              -Food prices         

              -Congressional response        

                     -Partisan politics
                             -Assessment
                     -William Proxmire
                     -Reaction to measures in 1971

The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 5:33 pm and 5:43
pm.

[Conversation No. 446-6B]

[Begin telephone conversation]

       Map room

       Military aide’s office [?]

       Henry A. Kissinger 

             -President’s request      


[End telephone conversation]
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                                                              Conversation No. 446-6 (cont’d)


       Kissinger

       Bryce N. Harlow 

             -Media response to appointment 


       George P. Shultz 

             -Role in administration        

                     -Energy program

                            -Disappointment
                     -Trade, Taxes
                     -Secretary of Treasury
             -Stress levels
                     -Performance
                            -Trade, economics, international conferences
             -William E. Simon

Kissinger talked with the President between 5:43 pm and 5:46 pm.

[Conversation No. 446-6C]

[Begin telephone conversation]

[See Conversation No. 40-115]

[End telephone conversation]

       Leonid I. Brezhnev’s forthcoming visit
              -Agenda         

                     -San Clemente         

                     -Agreements         

                             -Nuclear
                                    -Location of announcements
                                           -White House
                                    -San Clemente
                     -Communique agreements
                             -Location
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


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                                                             Conversation No. 446-6 (cont’d)

                      -Brezhnev’s speech         

                             -Possible dates       

                      -Agreements         

                             -Possible dates       

                             -Location       

                                    -East Room of White House
                             -Ziegler’s thoughts
                                    -Brezhnev’s address to Congress
                                    -Televised speech
                                    -Agreements

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 5:46 and 5:48
p.m.


[Conversation No. 446-6D] 


[Begin telephone conversation] 


[See Conversation No. 40-116] 


[End telephone conversation] 


       Brezhnev’s head of state visit
             -Agenda
                     -Trip to San Clemente
                             -Discussions with Brezhnev

The President talked with Henry A. Kissinger between 5:48 pm and 5:53 pm.

[Conversation No. 446-6E]

[Begin telephone conversation]

[See Conversation No. 40-117]

       Brezhnev’s speech
             -Timing
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                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM 


                                       Tape Subject Log 

                                        (rev. April-2013)

                                                            Conversation No. 446-6 (cont’d)

              -Location
              -Ziegler’s opinion

[End telephone conversation]

       Brezhnev’s head of state visit
             -Speech
                     -Delivery
                     -Taping
                             -Camp David
                     -Media coverage
             -Accommodations
                     -Camp David
                             -Dinner
                             -Restaurant
             -Schedule
                     -Camp David
                             -Return
             -“Spirit of San Clemente”
             -“Spirit of Casa Pacifica”

       Watergate
             -Buzhardt
             -Possible future revelations
                    -White House response
             -Senate Select Committee
                    -Strachan cross-examination

       President’s forthcoming speech at Pekin, Illinois
              -Audience
              -Content
                      -Foreign policy
                      -Reception of crowd
                      -National economy
              -Technique
                      -Complexity of the speech
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                                                              Conversation No. 446-6 (cont’d)

Ziegler left at 5:58 pm.