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Conversation: 452-014

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Start Date: 19-Feb-1971 1:09 PM

End Date: 19-Feb-1971 1:39 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Holt, CooperRainwater, Herbert R. (Chief)Johnson, Donald E.Colson, Charles W.Haig, Alexander M., Jr.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:58:54

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:29:13

452-014.mp3

NARA Description:

On February 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Cooper Holt, Chief Herbert R. Rainwater, Donald E. Johnson, Charles W. Colson, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:09 pm and 1:39 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 452-014 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 452-14

Date: February 19, 1971
Time: 1:09 pm - unknown before 1:39 pm
Location: Oval Office                                                Conv. No. 452-12 (cont.)

The President met with Cooper Holt, Herbert R. (“Chief”) Rainwater, Donald E. Johnson,
Charles W. Colson, and General Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

     Trip to California
     Vietnam War
           -Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW]
                 -Support for administration’s policies
                       -Laos
           -South Vietnamese position
           -VFW leader’s trip to Southeast Asia
           -United States’ Prisoners of War [POWs]
                 -Administration’s actions
                       -Raid on alleged POW camp
                             -Information on camp
           -VFW leader’s trip to Southeast Asia
                 -Report
                 -VFW leader’s view
                 -Negotiations to end war
                       -Laos and Cambodia
                       -Release of POWs
                       -Withdrawal of United States’ troops
                             -Administration policy
                                   -Vietnamization
                                   -President’s statement
           -President’s policy
                 -United States’ options
                       -Public discussion
           -Military action in Cambodia
                 -VFW leader’s view
                 -Effect on United States’ casualties
           -Efforts to end the war
                 -VFW leader’s views
                       -Paris peace talks
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 9/08)



                       -President’s position
                 -United States’ military action
                       -Bombing
                       -United States’ POWs
           -Protests and critics of war
                 -Laos and Cambodia
                 -George S. McGovern’s comments
                 -Domino theory                                 Conv. No. 452-14 (cont.)
                       -Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, and Indonesia
                       -Philippines
                 -McGovern’s remarks
                       -VFW’s press releases
                 -Protesters

The President’s schedule
     -VFW convention
          -American Legion convention
          -Date and location
          -The President’s possible appearance

VFW
      -Composition of organization
          -Membership
                -Veterans
                -Racial composition
                      -Blacks
                           -Inclusion
                           -Desegregation
                           -President’s view
                           -Inclusion
                                 -Efforts

Composition of armed forces
    -Melvin R. Laird
    -Views of military service
          -Conscientious objectors
          -Quakers’ view of war
                -President’s World War II service
                      -Hannah Milhous Nixon
          -Comparison to World War II
                -Differences
                -President’s view
                                       22

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 9/08)



     -Effectiveness of draft
     -Recruitment efforts
          -Attitudes on service by draftees
                -Changes since World War II
                -Public attitudes

POWs
   -Possible legislation                                     Conv. No. 452-14 (cont.)
        -Retirement
        -Physical condition
               -Care upon return
   -Brigadier General Daniel (“Chappie”) James, Jr.

VFW dinners
   -The Vice President
   -National convention
         -President’s schedule

Veterans
     -Jobs for veterans
           -Unemployment
           -Administration efforts
                 -Training
                 -Department of Veterans’ Affairs responsibility
                       -Johnson
           -Blacks
                 -Qualifications for skilled jobs
                 -Training
           -Department of Labor statistics
                 -Compilation
     -Status
           -Comparison to disadvantaged United States’ citizens
                 -Minority hiring
                       -President’s policy
           -Classification of veterans
                 -Vietnam veterans
           -Department of Labor
                 -George Meany, James D. Hodgson, and George P. Shultz
     -Hospital facility
           -Samuel W. Yorty and [Name unintelligible]
           -California earthquake
     -Resolution on jobs for veterans
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 9/08)



                -Creation of jobs for categories
                -President’s position
                -Preferences
                      -Classifications
                      -President’s policy

Holt and Rainwater left at 1:38 pm
                                                                   Conv. No. 452-14 (cont.)
     Johnson’s efforts

     Legislation
          -Jobs for veterans
                -White House statement
                     -Public relations
                     -California
                     -Johnson

Colson, Haig, and Johnson left at an unknown time before 1:39 pm