Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 466 › Conversation 466-013

Nixon, Ziegler & Sanchez on Media relations and Public relations

Thursday, March 11, 1971 · 4:55 PM–5:18 PM ET · Oval Office · 7 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.; Sanchez, Manolo; [Unknown person(s)]Conversation466-013 on Tape 466 (tape position 04:25:41–04:32:38)StartThursday, March 11, 1971 at 4:55 PMEndThursday, March 11, 1971 at 5:18 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 466-013 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler met with technicians to coordinate the logistics for an upcoming interview with women journalists. The participants established strict ground rules for the session, limiting discussion topics to Pat Nixon’s birthday, the role of First Ladies, and women in politics. They also determined the technical setup for the interview and planned for the distribution of the transcript to journalists who were not in attendance.

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All right.

Please set up your mics to be preferred.

Like I said, you can prefer to go in your smaller office or a longer room.

What do they have to do?

Do you set up for a team or do they just want to go into the mics?

Don't put a mic.

Don't put a mic down.

which will not be very big at all.

There won't be, you'll be able to see them, but they won't be, with all the people in here, they will be overbearing in the rain.

There'll be no one else in here, except you.

Now, we made it very clear.

They are Mrs. Nixon in relation to her birthday.

Yeah.

First ladies, first ladies, gentlemen.

Yeah.

Women and politics.

No, nothing else.

Nothing else, just politics.

Well, you bring that in, we're not telling them that.

I mean, first lady.

I think it's first lady.

I think it's rule since we are not.

Are they very interested in doing that?

Oh, sure.

They're all excited.

Now, what we're doing is I mentioned to you before, and this is why I've covered that, but we will release a package to the other women that are coming on board.

So that the other women... Well, other women are recording.

I was going to say that

I'm very comfortable in this car, having some stuff in here, of course.

If you understand what I'm saying to me, I can take care of all the, well, you know what I'm talking about.

I got one there and one here.

Whatever.

NARA Description

On March 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Manolo Sanchez, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 5:18 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 466-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 466-13

Date: March 11, 1971
Time: Unknown between 4:55 pm and 5:18 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler

     President’s forthcoming interview with women journalists
          -Setting of microphones
          -Ground rules
                -Contents
                      -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s birthday
                      -First Ladies
                      -Women in politics
          -Release of transcript to other women reporters
          -A book [?]
          -Setting up of equipment

Manolo Sanchez and unknown people [technicians] entered at an unknown time after 4:55 pm

     [Unintelligible]

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:18 pm

     President’s forthcoming interview with women journalists
          -Setting up of equipment

The President and Ziegler left at an unknown time before 5:18 pm

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The unknown people [technicians] left at an unknown time before 5:18 pm

Also recorded on March 11, 1971

466-012 4:00 PM · 53 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Henry A. Kissinger, Manolo Sanchez, Ronald L. Ziegler, Stephen B. Bull, John W. Byrnes, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:00 pm to 4:55 pm.
466-014 4:55 PM · 53 sec — Stephen B. Bull and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:55 pm and 5:18 pm.
466-015 5:18 PM · 1 hr 9 min — Ronald L. Ziegler, Frances Lewine, Helen A. Thomas, Sarah Booth Conroy, Betty Beale, Wauhillau LaHay, Claire Crawford, Louise Hutchinson, Marya McLaughlin, Fay G. Wells, Manolo Sanchez, White House photographer, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:18 pm to 6:17 pm.
466-016 6:17 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 6:17 pm to 6:20 pm.
466-017 6:20 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 6:20 pm to 6:25 pm.
466-018 6:25 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 6:25 pm and 6:35 pm.
466-019 6:25 PM · 24 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 6:25 pm and 6:35 pm.
466-020 6:35 PM · 2 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at 6:35 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 466-013, March 11, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/466-013 (accessed October 12, 2026).