Conversation: 467-023
Prev:  467-022 Next: 467-024Start Date: 17-Mar-1971 2:43 PM
End Date: 17-Mar-1971 3:17 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.; Hansen, Clifford P.; Woods, Rose Mary; Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:26:40
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:00:25
NARA Description:
On March 17, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, Clifford P. Hansen, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:43 pm to 3:17 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 467-023 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 467-23 Date: March 17, 1971 Time: 2:43 pm - 3:17 pm Location: Oval Office The President met with Henry A. Kissinger Vietnam -Air strikes -Weather -Timing -Kissinger’s view -Possible effect on Soviet Union reply to US proposal -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin -Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting [The President talked with Clifford P. Hansen between 2:45 pm and 2:46 pm] [Conversation No. 467-23A] Hansen’s support on a bill -Charles W. Colson -President’s appreciation [End of telephone conversation] Rose Mary Woods entered at 2:46 pm A book from Library of Congress -[Forename unknown] Fuller -Publication date -Content A television report -Ronald L. Ziegler Woods left at 2:47 pm 17 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) Laotian operation (Lam Son) -Associated Press [AP] story -Admiral Thomas H. Moorer -Inaccuracy -An AP reporter -Previous story on Cambodia -Military situation -Moorer’s view Conv. No. 467-23 (cont.) -Possible withdrawal of Army of the Republic of Vietnam [ARVN] forces -Military situation -ARVN troops -Withdrawal -Reason -Tchepone -Effectiveness -Interdiction of supplies -President’s call to Moorer -Possible Presidential statement -Moorer -Ho Chi Minh Trail -North Vietnamese supplies -Effect of Lam Son -President’s use of figures -Accuracy -Central Intelligence Agency [CIA] -Richard M. Helms -Relations with Pentagon -Figures on supplies -Compared with Cambodia -Helms -Directorship -Kissinger’s meeting, March 16, 1971 -Figures on North Vietnamese supplies -Decreases -Kissinger’s view -South Vietnam -Cambodia -Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting -President’s view -Moorer -President’s April 7, 1971 speech -Future 18 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Kissinger’s efforts -Intelligence estimates -Discrepancies -Kissinger’s March 16, 1971 meeting -Kissinger’s previous talk with General Alexander M. Haig, Jr. -Haig’s trip -Ellsworth F. Bunker -Military personnel Conv. No. 467-23 (cont.) -Military situation -Haig’s assessment -ARVN forces -North Vietnamese supplies -President’s April 7, 1971 speech President’s March 16, 1971 party -Harvard Law School students -Kissinger’s acquaintance -Edward R. F. Cox’s acquaintance -Vietnam views -Stafford Hutchinson -Background -Geoffrey M. Connor -Relation to former Congressman Vietnam -President’s forthcoming April 7, 1971 speech -Kissinger’s view -Reference to “peace with honor” -Howard K. Smith interview -President’s November 3, 1969 speech -Theme compared with other statements -Cambodia -President’s policy -Effect -Public opinion -Changes -President’s interview with Cyrus L. (“Cy”) Sulzberger -”The Establishment” -Kissinger’s view -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman’s view -Laos -Future announcements 19 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Time and content -Draftees -President’s previous call to Moorer -Current press coverage -Laos, Tchepone -Accuracy -Military situation in Laos -President’s position Conv. No. 467-23 (cont.) -AP story -Results -Compared with Cambodian operation -Future of Asia -Importance of US efforts -Possible future of negotiations -Indian ambassador -William P. Rogers ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 [National Security] [Duration: 17s ] INDIA END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 ****************************************************************************** Indira Gandhi -President’s reference in “Today” show interview -Copy for Indian ambassador -State Department John G. Gorton -Possible letter from the President -Position -Political situation 20 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Relations with US -Replacement [William McMahon] -Previous Head of State dinner on May 6, 1969 -Gorton’s toast President’s dinner for John M. (“Jack”) Lynch, March 16, 1971 -Effect -Publicity Conv. No. 467-23 (cont.) -Press stories Kissinger’s schedule -Forthcoming meeting with Dobrynin Vietnam -Air strikes -Military situation -US Air Force -Delays -President’s view -Moorer -Circumstances -Weather -Kissinger’s previous conversation with Moorer -Worldwide Laotian operation (Lam Son) -An AP story -President’s response -Military situation -Moorer -Haig -General Creighton W. Abrams, Jr. -Tchepone -ARVN -Haig -An AP story -Source -US losses -Decreases -President’s credibility -Press -Compared with Lyndon B. Johnson 21 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) John B. Connally -Kissinger’s previous attendance at a dinner -Rowland Evans -Henry Catto’s toast -Connally’s toast -The President -Effect on Evans Conv. No. 467-23 (cont.) -Ability -Presidency -President’s view -Public opinion -Television -Compared with Johnson -Texans -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew -Cabinet members -Elliot L. Richardson Agnew -Appearance at Gridiron Club dinner -Robert J. Dole ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 1m 38s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5 ****************************************************************************** Thomas E. Dewey’s funeral -President’s attendance -Kissinger’s possible attendance -Kissinger’s previous telephone conversation -President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board [PFIAB] -Dewey 22 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Opinion of President -Kissinger and Rogers’s possible attendance Vietnam -Figures -Need for accuracy -Haig’s reports -Military situation -Cambodia Conv. No. 467-23 (cont.) -Vietnamization -Melvin R. Laird -President’s policy -Effect of Cambodian and Laotian operations -North Vietnam -Laird -Effect of Cambodian and Laotian operations Laotian operation (Lam Son) -Duration -Military situation -Laird -President’s role -Possible statement -Purpose of current actions -Effect on supply routes -Effect of current actions Kissinger left at 3:17 pm