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Start Date: 19-Mar-1971 12:38 PM

End Date: 19-Mar-1971 1:05 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")White House operatorFord, Gerald R.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:10:32

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:32:08

470-013.mp3

NARA Description:

On March 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, and Gerald R. Ford met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:38 pm and 1:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 470-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 470-13

Date: March 19, 1971
Time: Unknown between 12:38 pm and 1:05 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

     Prisoners of War and Missing in Action [POW/MIA] families
          -Compared with Congressmen and Senators
          -Hardships on families
                -Effect on wives and children

     President’s schedule
          -Camp David
          -Arthur F. Burns meeting
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             -Length
         -Thomas E. Dewey funeral
             -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon
             -John M. Harlan
                  -Call from Chief Justice Warren E. Burger


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         -Camp David
             -Possible length of stay
             -March 22, 1971 program

    John A. Scali
         -Possible White House position
         -Relations with President
         -Support for Administration
         -Associated Press [AP] career
         -Compared with Ronald L. Ziegler
         -Possible White House position
              -Henry A. Kissinger
              -Title
                     -Leonard Garment
                     -Implications
              -Functions
              -Title
                     -Charles B. (“Bud”) Wilkinson
              -Kissinger
              -Need
                     -Haldeman’s conversations with Kissinger
              -Kissinger
              -Responsibilities
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                 -Kissinger
                 -State and Defense Departments
                       -Henry Catto and Robert J. McCloskey
                       -William P. Rogers and Melvin R. Laird
                       -Role
                             -Coordination policies
                                   -Public relations
                       -Laird, [David] Kenneth Rush, and KissingerConv. No. 470-13 (cont.)
            -Charles W. Colson
            -Kissinger’s press relations
                 -Herbert G. Klein
                 -Ziegler
        -Compared with Ziegler
            -AP experience

Vietnam
     -Laos operation
          -Purpose
               -President’s and Kissinger’s public statements
               -Goals
               -Kissinger’s statements
                     -Problems

Scali
        -Advice on briefing
             -Colson
             -Press

Kissinger
     -Briefing method
           -Columnists
                -Stewart J. O. Alsop
           -Television
           -Wire services

Burns
     -Peter M. Flanigan
     -Background memorandum

President’s schedule
     -California
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     Gerald R. Ford, Hugh Scott

     Supersonic Transport [SST]
          -Haldeman’s call to John L. McClellan
               -Reason
                    -Vote

[The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown timeConv.
                                                                       between
                                                                            No. 12:38
                                                                                470-13pm and
                                                                                       (cont.)
12:50 pm]

[Conversation No. 470-13A]

     Call to Ford

[End of telephone conversation]

     Scali
             -Possible White House position
                  -Possible staff assignment
                        -Kissinger
                        -State and Defense Departments
                        -National Security Council [NSC]
                        -Scali’s view

[The President talked with Ford between 12:50 pm and 12:52 pm]

[Conversation No. 470-13B]

     SST vote
     Congress

     SST vote
          -William E. Timmons
          -President’s opponents
                -Goal
                -Environmentalists
          -Senate
          -William M. Magruder
          -Media position
          -Future plans

[End of telephone conversation]
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             -Ford’s response

     President’s schedule
          -Burns
          -Dewey funeral
                -Seating on plane
                -Mrs. Nixon                                      Conv. No. 470-13 (cont.)


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     Scali
             -Possible White House position
                  -Kissinger
                  -Responsibilities
                        -Ziegler
                  -Kissinger
                        -Colson
             -Career
                  -Change
                  -Future

     White House staff
          -Careers before and after White House

Haldeman left at an unknown time before 1:05 pm
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