Conversation: 473-010
Prev: 473-009 Next: 473-011Start Date: 25-Mar-1971 3:55 PM
End Date: 25-Mar-1971 4:23 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Mitchell, John N.; Pappas, Thomas A.; Sanchez, Manolo; Bull, Stephen B.;Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:53:37
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 04:25:22
NARA Description:
On March 25, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, John N. Mitchell, Thomas A. Pappas, Manolo Sanchez, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:55 pm to 4:23 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 473-010 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 473-10
Date: March 25, 1971
Time: 3:55 pm - 4:23 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with John N. Mitchell and Thomas A. Pappas
President’s schedule
-Previous meeting with James D. Hodgson
Pappas’ schedule
Domestic Intelligence Advisory Board
-Paperwork
Pappas
-Work
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[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 4m 23s ]
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Hugh Scott
-Pappas’ previous conversation
A gift
-George A. Murphy
Scott
-Pappas’ previous conversation
-Support for President
-Supersonic Transport [SST]
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John A. Volpe
-Health
SST
-Volpe’s work
SST
-Administration work
Conv. No. 473-10 (cont.)
National mood
-SST
-Space program
-Defense programs
-Poverty
-President’s upcoming meeting with Congressional Black Caucus
-Program priorities
-Source of revenue
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 3:55 pm
Refreshments
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Sanchez left at an unknown time before 4:23 pm
Support for President
-Pappas’ experiences
-Pappas
-1960 election
-John C. Folger
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World leadership
-President’s role
-Era of change
-General Charles A. J. M. de Gaulle
-Konrad Adenauer
-Winston S. Churchill
-Alcide de Gasperi
-King Paul of Greece [Paul I] Conv. No. 473-10 (cont.)
-The Vatican
-Pope Pius XII [Eugenio Pacelli]
-Compared with Popes John XXIII [Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli] and
Paul VI [Giovanni Battista Motini]
-Catholic Church
-United States
-American Eastern Establishment
-Harvard University
-Vietnam War
-President’s role
-President’s policy
-Importance to US
-Charles H. Percy
-R. Sargent Shriver
-Edward W. Brooke
-Enemies of US
-Europe
-Public opinion
-President’s forthcoming announcement
-Effect
-US troops
-Withdrawal
-Prisoners of War [POWs]
-South Vietnam
-Peace talks in Paris
-Henry Cabot Lodge, Dr. David K. E. Bruce
-Effect
-US strategy
-Timing of negotiations
-POWs
-Geneva
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National mood
-Effect of World War II
-Compared with French, Germans, and Japanese
-Effect of Korean and Vietnam Wars
-Intellectuals
-Media
-Attitudes toward US role in world
-Aviation Conv. No. 473-10 (cont.)
-Space exploration
-Domestic orientation
-Blacks
-Communists
-Britain, France, Japan, US
-Intellectuals
-View of America
-John Kenneth Galbraith
-McGeorge Bundy
Henry E. Ford, II
-Attendance at President’s March 23, 1971 dinner
-Wife
-Work in volunteer efforts
-Relations with Pappas
-Support for John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson
-First wife
-Support for President
-Max M. Fisher
-Contribution
Pappas
-Support for the President
-Meeting with the President
-Italy
-Pappas’ business
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ITALY AND THE VATICAN Conv. No. 473-10 (cont.)
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Italy
-Henry J. Tasca
-Possible appointment
-Pappas’ view
-Wife
-Greece
-Comments on State Department
-Relations with Pappas [?]
Communists
-Spain, Turkey, Italy
-Pappas’ view
-Greece
-President’s position
-Support for Greece
-Mitchell
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Pappas previous conversation with George Papadopoulos
-Support of Greece
-Tasca
-Pappas’ previous conversation with Constantinos Karamanlis
-Tasca’s role
-Political developments
-Pappas’ assessment
-Martial law
-Tasca
-Status
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-King Constantine [Constantine II]
-Health
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[National Security] Conv. No. 473-10 (cont.)
[Duration: 19s ]
GREECE
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-Yugoslavia
-Josip Broz Tito
-Accomplishments
-President’s visit in October, 1970
-Status
-Pappas’ view
-Tito’s planned visit to US
-Timing
-Pappas’ possible attendance at State dinner
Pappas’ work for Mitchell
-Schedule
Yugoslavia
-Monetary situation
-Pappas’ business connections
-Imports and exports
-Steel plant
-Japan, England, Germany, France
Middle East
-A Prime Minister
-Friendship with Pappas
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-Tom Pluskey [?]
-Brother
-Soviet Union role
-Israel
-US role
-Soviet Union role
-Pappas’ view
Conv. No. 473-10 (cont.)
Turkey
-Drug traffic
-Pappas’ role
-President’s position
-New leader
-Program
-Pappas’ view
-Advisors
-Pappas’ view
-Previous conversations with the President
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CYPRUS
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Possible Meeting of President and Giuseppe Saragat
-Italy
-California
-Previous state visit
-Private visit
-Timing
-California
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-Florida
-Alaska
-Circumstances
-Lieutenant General Vernon A. Walters
-Dwight D. Eisenhower Administration role
Folger
-Pappas’ meeting Conv. No. 473-10 (cont.)
-Contribution to Common Cause
-John W. Gardner
-Common Cause
Ripon Society
-Shriver
-A party for Charles E. Goodell
-Mitchell’s view
Pappas’ forthcoming work
-President’s appreciation
Gifts
-Cufflinks
-Paperweight
Stephen B. Bull entered at 4:23 pm
The President’s schedule
-Forthcoming meeting with Congressional Black Caucus
[Forename unknown] Wells [?]
President’s support
Mitchell, Pappas, and Bull left at 4:23 pm
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