Conversation: 475-016
Prev:  475-015 Next: 475-017Start Date: 8-Apr-1971 9:18 AM
End Date: 8-Apr-1971 10:07 AM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.; Woods, Rose Mary; Moorer, Thomas H. (Adm.); Bull, Stephen B.; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.; Woods, Rose Mary; Moorer, Thomas H. (Adm.); Bull, Stephen B.; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:24:25
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:18:18
NARA Description:
On April 8, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, Rose Mary Woods, Adm. Thomas H. Moorer, Stephen B. Bull, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:18 am to 10:07 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 475-016 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 475-16 Date: April 8, 1971 Time: 9:18 am - 10:07 am Location: Oval Office The President met with Henry A. Kissinger President’s speech on Southeast Asia, April 7, 1971 -Reaction to staff -Donald H. Rumsfeld [The President talked with Rose Mary Woods at an unknown time between 9:18 am and 9:37 am] [Conversation No. 475-16A] ****************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 32s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 ****************************************************************************** [End of telephone conversation] Staff meeting Kissinger’s schedule -Briefing of columnists Kissinger’s possible call to Shirley Taylor -Public comments 13 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) [Admiral [Thomas H. Moorer] talked with the President at an unknown time between 9:18 am and 9:37 am] [Conversation No. 475-16B] President’s speech on Southeast Asia, April 7, 1971 -Reaction -Senate and House “doves” Conv. No. 475-16 (cont.) -Military -Marvin L. Kalb -Left wingers -Atrocity stories [End of telephone conversation] -Moorer’s call to Kissinger, April 7, 1971 -Woods -Praise for the President -Kissinger’s New York friends -Nelson A. Rockefeller -Comments -Rockefeller family -Kissinger’s meeting with David Rockefeller -Kissinger’s conversation with John D. Rockefeller, III -Wealth -N. A. Rockefeller’s support for President Congress -Support for President in House and Senate -Gerald R. Ford -Carl B. Albert -Robert C. Byrd -Prisoners of War [POW] issue -Democratic Caucus report -Troop levels -POW “trade” People’s Republic of China [PRC] invitation to US Ping-pong team -Significance 14 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman -Location -Schedule Staff and Cabinet -Kissinger and Haldeman -John D. Ehrlichman -Pressures Conv. No. 475-16 (cont.) -Family -Ehrlichman and Haldeman -Robert H. Finch -Kissinger’s conversation with Taft Schreiber -Finch -Finch -Response to speech President’s speech on Southeast Asia, April 7, 1971 -Length -Conclusion -Reaction -General Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and Kissinger -President’s bearing -Unknown woman friend of Kissinger -Reaction -President’s bearing -Foreign policy researcher for N. A. Rockefeller -Creative aspects of speech -President’s own idiom -Kissinger’s evaluation -Kissinger’s conversation with unknown Harvard University professor -Reaction -Kissinger at Harvard University -Cabinet and staff -Unknown Harvard University professor -Reaction -Responsibility -President as commander-in-chief -Congress -Withdrawal from Vietnam -Consequence of early departure 15 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Doves -Residual force in South Vietnam -Figures -US policy -Draftees in Vietnam -James L. Buckley -US Army Conv. No. 475-16 (cont.) Lieutenant William L. Calley, Jr. -Birch E. Bayh, Jr.’s criticism of President -Doves reaction -Country’s reaction -President’s role in case -Review President’s speech on Southeast Asia -Unknown Georgia Republican’s call to Kissinger -Calley -Response to President’s speech Vietnam -American people’s desire for victory -”Right wing” point of view -Definition of a US victory -Save South Vietnam -President’s speech on Southeast Asia -Impact on negotiations Press questions to Kissinger -Television commentators and commentary -Laos -Cabinet statements on combat in Vietnam -Melvin R. Laird and William P. Rogers -Inconsistency with White House statements -Number of combat troops -Reduction -Combat mission changing -Defensive -Withdrawal date -Air sortie figures -Press reaction 16 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Reporting -Washington Post -Instructions to Kissinger -Kissinger’s comments to Albert -[Distribution to members of Congress] -Questions -Air sorties -Killing of civilians Conv. No. 475-16 (cont.) -Substitution of Asians for Americans -Reporters -[Forename unknown] MacGavern [sp?] of Chicago Sun-Times -Criticism of speech -Ronald L. Ziegler -Press bias -MacGavern [sp?] -Kissinger’s reply to press -Accomplishments by President in withdrawal program and in military situation in Vietnam since July 1, 1969 [The President talked with Stephen B. Bull at an unknown time between 9:18 am and 9:37 am] [Conversation No. 475-16C] President’s call to Haldeman [End of telephone conversation] President’s speech on Southeast Asia -Writing press -Commentaries -Kalb and Dan Rather -Unknown Pentagon correspondent -John W. Chancellor -Television briefing Haldeman entered at 9:37 am White House staff and Cabinet -President’s frustration -Haldeman and Kissinger -Ehrlichman -John B. Connally 17 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Support for administration’s Vietnam policy -Support in future campaign -Butterfield and Bull -Opposition -[Establishment, Washington Post, news magazines, television, Congress] -Need to get tough -Charles W. Colson -President’s speech on Southeast Asia Conv. No. 475-16 (cont.) -Praise for Kissinger and Haldeman’s support Charts on casualties -Use in briefings -President’s possible uses -Talking points Kissinger left at 9:41 am Kissinger’s forthcoming memorandum -Circulation to spokesmen, Congressmen, Senators, editors President’s speech on Southeast Asia -Chart used in speech -President’s evaluation -Line -Lettering -Mark I. Goode -William H. Carruthers -Schedule -President’s conversation with Goode -Importance of chart -Television crew -Dwight L. Chapin -Goode -Understanding problem -Connally -Evaluation -President’s movements -Chart -Connally -Chart -Impact 18 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS] -Rather -Troop withdrawals -Timing -Figures -Use of television images -Illustration of soldier -Troop withdrawals Conv. No. 475-16 (cont.) -Chart -Picture/chart contrasted -Rogers’ use -Goode, Haldeman, and Butterfield -Rogers’ chart -Picture of a soldier -Camera work -Evaluation -Praise -Difficulty -White House coordination with producers -Goode -Producers’ view -Haldeman’s view -Goode Dinner for W. Clement Stone, April 8, 1971 -Receiving line versus mingling -Attendees -Number -Announcements -Table -President’s remarks -Location -Press coverage President’s speech on Southeast Asia -Poll -Telephone calls -Priority calls Meeting with Peter G. Peterson -Opening remarks for briefing 19 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:41 am -Arrangements for forthcoming briefing [domestic briefing for Administration wives, April 8, 1971] President’s schedule -President’s instructions to Bull -Instructions for Peterson [for forthcoming meeting of Council on International Economic Policy, April 8, 1971] Conv. No. 475-16 (cont.) Bull left at an unknown time before 10:07 am Moral support for President by staff -Reflection of country -Lack of use for weak men -Haldeman and Kissinger -Ehrlichman -White House staff -Rumsfeld -Clark MacGregor -Kissinger’s attitude -Congress -Ford -Administration’s spokesman -Effectiveness Haldeman’s staff meeting -Kissinger -Response of staff -Evaluation -Backup -Bombing and casualty reductions -Charts -Dwight D. Eisenhower -Graphs -Use in revenue sharing speeches George P. Shultz 20 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) Congress -House -Education bill -Ford Polls -President’s performance -Approval rating Conv. No. 475-16 (cont.) -Figures -President’s speech on Southeast Asia -Audience -Figures -Favorable/unfavorable reaction -Figures -President’s Vietnam policy -Approval/disapproval ratios -Political make-up of respondents -Gender of respondents -Approve/disapprove -Calley -Bayh -Opinion Research Corporation [ORC] poll -Calley -Instructions to Haldeman to publicize poll -George H. Gallup poll -Current standing -Figures -Calley poll -Publicity -Circulation to Congress -Ehrlichman and Robert A. Taft, Jr. Taft -MacGregor -Colson Polls -ORC poll -Figures -Gallup poll -Circulation -President’s speech on Southeast Asia 21 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) Haldeman’s conversation with Colson Calley issue -Taft -President’s conversation with Ehrlichman -Captain Aubrey M. Daniel -Possible strategy -Letter to President Conv. No. 475-16 (cont.) -Stanley R. Resor -Possible letter to Daniel -President’s possible conversation with Laird -White House handling President’s speech on Southeast Asia, April 7, 1971 -Connally’s reaction -Press reaction -Ending -CBS analysis -American Broadcasting Company [ABC]/National Broadcasting Company [NBC] -Telephone responses -Telegrams -Compared with November 3, 1969 speech -Silent majority -Telegrams -Emotional appeal -Possible demonstrations -Peace groups -John W. Gardner -Reassurance to followers -Finch and Rumsfeld -Opponents -Delivery, presentation -Charts -Rogers’ chart -Kissinger -Department of Defense -Rogers -Effects -Telephone calls -Editorial reactions -”Hawks” 22 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 9/08) -President’s supporters -Laos -Vietnam -Casualties -Compared with 1970 -Decline since 1969 Kissinger’s conversation with Shirley Taylor Conv. No. 475-16 (cont.) Taylor family -Response to speech -Kevin Taylor -Karl (“Skipper”) Taylor, Jr., and daughter -Family watching speech on television -S. Taylor’s comments -Sergeant Karl Taylor -Comments about Vietnam War -Visit to White House -Kevin Taylor -Story in newspaper -Kevin Taylor -Press play -Kevin Taylor’s salute -S. Taylor Haldeman left at 10:07 am