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Start Date: 9-Apr-1971 10:03 AM

End Date: 9-Apr-1971 10:27 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Shultz, George P.Haig, Alexander M., Jr.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:19:42

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:43:29

476-008.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 9, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, George P. Shultz, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:03 am to 10:27 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 476-008 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 476-8

Date: April 9, 1971
Time: 10:03 am - 10:27 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with George P. Shultz

     Economy
         -Paul W. McCracken
               -Possible resignation
         -John D. Ehrlichman
         -McCracken

[The President talked with General Alexander M. Haig, Jr. between 10:03 am and 10:27 am]

[Conversation No. 476-8A]

[See Conversation No. 1-55]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Economy
         -Need for confidence in plan
         -Strategy
         -McCracken
         -Policy
         -Need for consistency
         -Construction trades
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                    Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 9/08)



     Cambodia
         -Press story in New York Times
              -Terence F. Smith
              -Forrest Boyd
              -Political situation
              -Economy
              -Leaks
                     -State Department
                     -Marshall Green
              -Fred Ladd
              -Instructions to Henry A. Kissinger

     Economy
         -McCracken
         -Shultz’s role
               -News stories
         -Optimism
         -Indicators
               -Sales
               -Weather
         -Sears sales
         -Automobile sales
               -General Motors [GM]
               -American Motors Corporation [AMC]
         -Business community
         -Inventories
         -Federal Reserve Board [FRB]
               -Money supply
         -McCracken
               -Possible resignation
               -University of Michigan
               -Economic reports
                     -Preparation
               -Shultz’s previous conversations with McCracken
               -President’s forthcoming conversation with McCracken
         -Profits statements
         -Long-term goals

Haig entered at 10:05 am

     Defense
          -Anti-ballistic Missile [ABM] agreement
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 9/08)



           -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] agreement
           -Ehrlichman
           -ABM agreement
                 -Timing
           -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] missiles
                 -Freeze on deployment
           -”Doves”
           -President’s initiatives                               Conv. No. 476-8 (cont.)
                 -William P. Rogers and Kissinger
           -ABM sites
                 -Washington and Moscow
           -Freeze on Soviet offensive missiles
           -ABM funds
           -Possible US-USSR agreement
           -”Doves”
           -Possible ABM freeze
           -USSR strength
           -Polaris
           -US strategy
                 -ABM agreement tied to missile freeze
           -Impact
           -Budget
           -Military opinions

Haig left at 10:08 am

           -Public statement
           -Need for confidentiality
           -Leaks
                -Melvin R. Laird
           -Rogers
           -Congress
           -Prospects for agreement with USSR
           -Shultz’s conversation with Ehrlichman
           -Domestic initiative
           -Impact
           -Budget
           -Congress
           -Possible funds
           -Department of Defense
           -Budget
                -Hardware
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              -Bases
              -Force structure
              -Manpower and bases
         -Prospects for agreement with Soviets
         -Cambodia


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                                                           Conv. No. 476-8 (cont.)

BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 31s ]


    MIDDLE EAST


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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         -Cambodia and Laos
             -President’s strategy
             -Perception of turn “right”
         -USSR options
             -Risks
             -Possible agreement with US
             -Leadership

    Vietnam
         -North Vietnamese
              -Negotiations
         -South Vietnamese elections
         -North Vietnamese
              -Negotiations
              -Prisoners of War [POWs]
              -Resources
         -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
         -North Vietnamese
              -Negotiations
              -Prospects
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 9/08)



           -USSR
           -US policy
           -North Vietnamese
                -Risks
                -US election
                -”Doves”
           -US policy
                                                                     Conv. No. 476-8 (cont.)
     ABM agreement with USSR
        -Prospects

     McCracken

Shultz left at 10:27 am