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Start Date: 15-Apr-1971 12:41 PM

End Date: 15-Apr-1971 1:18 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Bull, Stephen B.Ziegler, Ronald L.Sutherland, John P. ("Jack")Ehrlichman, John D.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:29:47

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:01:15

480-010.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 15, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, Ronald L. Ziegler, John P. ("Jack") Sutherland, and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:41 pm and 1:18 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 480-010 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 480-10

Date: April 15, 1971
Time: Unknown between 12:41 pm and 1:18 pm
Location: Oval Office
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The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman

     Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
          -Veterans’ demonstration
                -Capitol grounds
                     -President of Senate
                     -Speaker of House
                           -Carl B. Albert                          Conv. No. 480-9 (cont.)
                                 -Health

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:41 pm

     The President’s schedule
          -Barber

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:50 pm

     Agnew
         -Forthcoming demonstration
              -Use of Capitol
                   -Attorney General’s [Richard G. Kleindienst’s] opinion
                   -Effect on Congress
                   -Ellipse
                   -Agnew’s meeting
                   -Administration’s possible position
                   -Southern Christian Leadership Conference [SCLC]
                         -Precedent
                   -Possible crisis
                   -Effect on Congress
                   -Vietnam
                   -Numbers
                   -Veterans
                         -Schedule
                   -Albert
                         -Health
                         -Democratic leadership
                         -Personal life
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 1m 51s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3                                           Conv. No. 480-10 (cont.)

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     John B. Connally
          -Arthur F. Burns
          -John D. Ehrlichman
          -Henry A. Kissinger

     Campaign practices
         -Interview with Edmund S. Muskie’s mother
               -”Chapman’s friend”
               -Age
               -Jane F. (Gray) Muskie
                     -Background
                     -E. S. Muskie
                           -Wife
                     -Portland, Maine
                     -Children
                           -Gene Muskie
                           -Daughters
                     -President
                     -E. S. Muskie
                           -Abraham Lincoln simile
                           -Education
                           -Presidential aspirations
                     -Daughters
                           -Political views

     Interviews with other E. S. Muskie family and staff members
           -Portland Press Herald
           -Mickey Wiesenthal [sp?]

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at an unknown time after 12:41 pm
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     The President’s schedule
          -John P. (“Jack”) Sutherland
               -Alma mater’s yearbook
               -Photo session with the President

Ziegler left at an unknown time before 12:50 pm

     Campaign practices                                          Conv. No. 480-10 (cont.)
         -”Chapman’s friend”
              -Jay Lovestone’s meeting with Hubert H. Humphrey and George Meany

Sutherland and Ziegler entered at 12:50 pm

     Photo session
          -Notes
          -Autographed photo of the President
          -Unknown forthcoming event, May 8, 1971
          -Golf balls
          -Cuff links

     Ziegler
          -Editors’ meeting
          -Performance

Sutherland and Ziegler left at 12:54 pm

     Campaign practices
         -”Chapman’s friend”
              -Lovestone’s meeting with Humphrey and Meany
                    -Supersonic Transport [SST]
                    -American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations [AFL-CIO]
                    -1968 election campaign
                    -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
                    -James L. Buckley
                    -Republicans
                          -Locals
                          -Economic situation
                    -Democrats
                          -Jackson
                    -E. S. Muskie
              -1962 campaign
                    -Leaks
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The President’s schedule
     -Televised press conference
     -Office press conference
     -California trip
     -Press conference
           -Announcement
     -Demonstrations
           -Timing                                        Conv. No. 480-10 (cont.)
                 -Veterans
                      -April 19, 1971
                 -April 24, 1971
                 -May 1-5, 1971
                 -April 24, 1971
                 -May 5, 1971
     -Press conference
     -California trip
           -Timing
     -Photographers
     -State visits
     -Church
     -President’s meetings
           -Number
           -Daily
           -Frequency
           -Leonard Garment’s call
                 -Sammy Davis, Jr.
     -Flexibility
     -Staff members
     -Press conferences
     -Statements
     -Speeches
     -Agriculture Day
     -California trip
     -Press conference
     -Florida weekend
           -Giuseppe Saragat
     -Alabama

Elections in Berkeley, California
      -Results
      -Activism
      -Faculty and students
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          -Electorate
               -Blacks
               -Hippies
               -Radicals
               -Longshoremen’s union
          -Stanford University

     Santa Cruz, California incident                             Conv. No. 480-10 (cont.)
          -Reaction
          -Los Angeles Times
          -Burning of building
          -Haldeman’s son’s reaction

     May Day demonstrations
         -Security
         -Disruption on White House grounds
              -”Salute to Agriculture”
         -Washington Post story on cameras at White House
              -Police state image
              -Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
              -San Clemente
              -Florida
              -Security
              -Number of police at the White House
              -Ziegler

     Berkeley, California

     Economy
         -George P. Shultz
         -Industrial production
         -Briefing, April 15, 1971
         -Paul W. McCracken

     Donald H. Rumsfeld and Robert H. Finch
         -Compared to Connally
         -Performance

Ehrlichman entered at an unknown time after 12:54 pm
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     The President’s schedule
          -Davis
          -Awards at Open Door Hour
               -[Muscular Dystrophy Association of America]
               -Nebraska
          -Garment
          -Davis
               -Picture                                          Conv. No. 480-10 (cont.)
          -Harold Russell
          -Press
          -Davis

     Davis
          -Schedule
          -Press
          -Robert J. Brown
          -Schedule
                -Shady Grove
                -Brown
          -Wife
          -Retirement
          -Revenue sharing
          -Entertainment

     The President’s schedule
          -Davis
          -Muscular Dystrophy Association of America
          -Davis
               -Picture

Ehrlichman left at an unknown time before 1:18 pm

     Davis
          -Appearance
          -Possible meeting with the President

     The President’s schedule
          -Morocco [canceled visit of King [Moulay] Hassan II]
          -Press conference

The President and Haldeman left at 1:18 pm
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