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Start Date: 23-Apr-1971 12:52 PM

End Date: 23-Apr-1971 1:04 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:05:33

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:17:37

487-015.mp3

NARA Description:

On April 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:52 pm to 1:04 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 487-015 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 487-15

Date: April 23, 1971
Time: 12:52 pm - 1:04 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

     President's previous meeting with Michael Newton
          -Deaf children
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 9/08)



Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
     -US strategy

National mood
     -Sickness
     -Effect
     -Eastern area
     -Chicago                                               Conv. No. 487-15 (cont.)
     -Minneapolis
     -West coast
          -California

Vietnam
     -Administration options
     -Howard H. Baker, Jr.
     -National defense
     -White House staff
           -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
           -Support for the President
           -John C. Whitaker
     -Administration's position
                 -Kissinger’s view
     -President's speech, April 7, 1971
           -US troop withdrawals
                 -Number
           -Upbeat feeling
     -National malady
     -Press corps
     -Press
           -Unknown German newspaper article
                 -Morality
                       -Justification for American policy
                 -Attacks against President
                       -My Lai
     -Political battle
     -Attacks against administration
           -Economy

Thomas Jefferson
    -Unknown book
    -Louisiana Purchase
    -1800 elections
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 9/08)



     -Alien and Sedition Act
     -Country
     -Political climate
     -Jefferson's opponents
           -French Republic
           -1800 elections
                 -Federalists
           -Alexander Hamilton                             Conv. No. 487-15 (cont.)
                 -Duel with Aaron Burr
           -Burr
           -Speeches
           -Admirers

Woodrow Wilson
    -World War I
    -Theodore Roosevelt
         -Opposition to Wilson

Jefferson

Wilson

John F. Kennedy
     -Intellectuals

President Nixon
     -Compared with Kennedy

Kennedy

Education
    -Academic community
    -Teachers
    -Clergy
    -Responsibilities
    -Workers
    -Uneducated
    -H. G. Wells' theory
          -Outline of History
          -Myth regarding education
    -Uneducated
          -Respect
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                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 9/08)



           -Educated
                -Values
           -Values

     Kissinger's schedule
          -Dobrynin

     Vietnam                                                          Conv. No. 487-15 (cont.)
          -Administration's position
          -Political opposition
          -Administration strategy
          -Political opposition
                -Unknown German newspaper article

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under court order from
December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums, et al. v. James M.
Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records Administration produced this
transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

     US and Soviet negotiations
          -Kissinger’s forthcoming meeting with Dobrynin
               -US stance
          -People's Republic of China [PRC]
               -Effect on negotiations

Kissinger left at 1:04 pm.