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Conversation: 488-016

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Start Date: 27-Apr-1971 11:43 AM

End Date: 27-Apr-1971 12:16 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Blount, Winton M. ("Red"), Jr.Shultz, George P.Bull, Stephen B.[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:23:32

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:55:06

NARA Description:

On April 27, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Winton M. ("Red") Blount, Jr., George P. Shultz, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:43 am to 12:16 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 488-016 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 488-16
                                                                     Conv. No. 488-15 (cont.)
Date: April 27, 1971
Time: 11:43 am - 12:16 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Winton M. (“Red”) Blount and George P. Shultz.

     Greetings

     Economy
         -Interest rates
               -Arthur F. Burns
               -Ronald L. Ziegler
         -John D. Ehrlichman
         -Problems

     Blount's tenure
          -Postmaster General

     Shultz's meeting with James D. Corbett, April 26, 1971
          -New York
                -University Club

     Postal Service
          -Wage negotiations
          -Labor
                -Contract negotiations
                -Costs

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:43 am.

     President's schedule
          -Meeting with ambassadors of Kuwait and Guinea

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:16 pm.
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Postal Service Labor negotiations
     -Management's position
           -Postal supervisors
                 -Previous contract
     -Outlook
     -Wage increases
           -Costs
           -Effect on government
     -Productivity improvements
     -Grievance procedures
           -Discipline
           -Management rights
     -Technology improvements
     -Wage increases
           -Impact on Government employees
     -Management's position
     -Shultz
           -Budget
           -Possible rate increase
     -Wage increases
           -Amount
           -Cost
     -Legislation
           -Comparability of pay
                 -Government and private sector
                 -President's options
                 -Congress
     -Pay bills
     -Union activities
     -Procedures
     -Wage increases
     -Pressures
           -Effect on other government workers
     -Wage increases
     -Productivity
     -Negotiations
           -Timing
           -Fact-finding procedures
     -Arbitration
     -Importance
     -Decisions
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          -Postal Service's position
          -President’s view
                -Blount’s role
                -Balance
          -Management's position
          -Compatibility of pay
          -Productivity Commission
          -Bargaining                                          Conv. No. 488-16 (cont.)
          -Shultz’s view
          -Procedures
          -Psychology
          -Union's position
          -Arbitration
                -Postal regions
          -Local post offices
                -Political influence
          -Reorganization of regions
                -Blount’s view
                -Congress
                -Management's stance
                -Reductions-in-force
                -President’s view
                -Closing of bases
                -Russell B. Long
                      -Funds

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 11:43 am.

     Refreshment

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 12:16 pm.

     Postal Service
          -Reorganization
                -Blount
          -Postal regions
          -Administration's position
          -Organization
                -Top officials
                -Recruitment of talent
                      -Businessmen
                -Gen. Leonard F. Chapman, Jr.
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                -Qualifications
                -Joint Chiefs of staff
                      -Adm. Thomas H. Moorer
                -Age
          -Military
                -President’s view
                -Gen. Lucius D. Clay, Jr.
                -Chapman                                     Conv. No. 488-16 (cont.)
                -Ambassadors
                      -Philippines
                            -Raymond A. Spruance
                                   -Background
                -Douglas MacArthur
                -Dwight D. Eisenhower
                -Retirement
          -Salary
          -Retire Chief Executive officers
                -Bucky Newsom [sp?]
                -Bert S. Cross
                      -Minnesota Mining & Manufacturing Company
                      -Age
                -Robert C. Tyson
                      -Previous assignment for the President
                      -US steel corporation
                      -Qualifications
          -Military
                -Air Force
                -Navy
                -Bernard Schreiver
                      -Texas
                      -President’s view
                      -Missiles

Businesses
     -Hirings
           -Veterans
           -James F. Oates
           -Blacks

Postal Service
     -Recruitment
           -Newsom [sp?]
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                                   Tape Subject Log
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                   -Possible meeting with the President
              -Blount
                   -Tenure
              -Newsom [sp?]
                   -Boys clubs
                   -Cleveland

    Blount's conversation with George C. Wallace             Conv. No. 488-16 (cont.)
         -Moorer
               -Qualifications


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 8m 1s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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    President's schedule
         -Possible visit to Alabama
                -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                -Scheduling
         -Meeting with ambassadors of Kuwait and Guinea


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 46s ]


    FOREIGN RELATIONS


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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           -Previous Cabinet Meeting
                -United Nations [UN]
                      -Other cities
                      -New York                                     Conv. No. 488-16 (cont.)
                      -George H.W. Bush
                           -Press coverage
                      -Guinea
                      -Building

     Blount's performance

The President, Blount, and Shultz left at 12:16 pm.