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Conversation: 490-014

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Start Date: 4-May-1971 11:38 AM

End Date: 4-May-1971 12:03 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Moorer, Thomas H. (Adm.)Packard, DavidHaig, Alexander M., Jr.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:40:01

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:03:18

NARA Description:

On May 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Adm. Thomas H. Moorer, David Packard, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:38 am to 12:03 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 490-014 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 490-14

Date: May 4, 1971
Time: 11:38 am - 12:03 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Admiral Thomas H. Moorer, David Packard, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

     Greetings

     Weather

     President's schedule
          -Forthcoming "Salute to Agriculture"

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under court order from
December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums, et al. v. James M.
Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records Administration produced this
transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

     Southern Command
          -Problem
          -Possible changes
                -Arguments
                -President’s view
          -Latin America
                -Dictatorships
                -Chile
                -Peru
                -Argentina
                -Brazil
          -World Command structures
          -South America and Africa sub sahara
          -Command structure
                -Justification changes
                      -Political and diplomatic issues
                             -Military role
          -Panama Canal negotiations
          -Panama Canal
                -Defense
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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
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            -Atlantic Command
-Organization options
      -Washington, DC
      -Panama
-Defense Department
      -Reorganization
-Military assistance program
      -Korea
-Nixon Doctrine
-Military assistance program
-Reorganization
      -President’s view
            -Command structure
                  -Benefits
      -Joint Chiefs' views
            -Military role
            -Military governments
            -Inter-American Defense College
            -Chile
                  -Salvador Allende Gossens
                        -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
            -Law-of-the-sea
            -Moorer’s concern
-US relations with Latin nations
      -Peru
            -Juan Velasco Alvarado
-Military sales in Latin America
-US influence in Latin America
-Organization
      -Location
            -Washington, DC
            -Panama
      -Communication
      -Possible structure
            -Chain of command
      -Effectiveness
            -Packard’s view
      -Restructuring
-Joint Chiefs' views
      -Reorganization
            -Chain of command structure
                  -US embassy role
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 9/08)



                        -Department of Defense role
                 -Effect on missions
           -Hemisphere defense
           -USSR
     -US contacts with Latin America leaders
     -Military sales in Latin America
     -Transition period
     -Objectives                                          Conv. No. 490-14 (cont.)
     -Brazil
           -Dominican Republic
                 -1965 operation
                        -Moorer’s experience
           -World War II
                 -Italy
     -Unified Command
     -Preparedness
     -US presence in Latin America
     -President's possible options
     -US security

Military Assistance Program
      -Africa
            -Ethiopia
            -Zaire
                  -Sese Seko Mobutu
            -US military command
                  -Structure

Vietnam
     -Unknown General in helicopter
          -Magazine story
          -Possible administration response
     -My Lai
     -Press stories
     -Unknown General
          -Investigation
          -Military justice
     -Support for Military
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 9/08)



     Southern Command
          -Arguments
               -The President’s decision
          -Defense policy group
          -Goddard (?)
          -Thomas P. (“Tip”) O'Neill, Jr.

Moorer, Packard, and Haig left at 12:03 pm.                      Conv. No. 490-14 (cont.)