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Start Date: 7-May-1971 11:00 AM

End Date: 7-May-1971 11:45 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Ziegler, Ronald L.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:12:09

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:57:07

495a.mp3

495b.mp3

495c.mp3

NARA Description:

On May 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:00 am to 11:45 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 495-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 495-9

Date: May 7, 1971
Time: 11:00 am - 11:45 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Unemployment figures
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     Possible Prisoner of War [POW] Day
          -Pope Paul VI
                -William P. Rogers' May 8, 1971 meeting
                      -John D. Ehrlichman
                -Possible proclamation
                      -Date
                -Special masses
                      -Washington, St. Patrick's Cathedral
          -Purpose
          -Vatican staff
          -Pope Paul
                -Rogers’ meeting
          -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.'s position
          -Vatican Staff
          -Pope Paul
                -Rogers’ meeting
                      -Purpose

     American Farm Bureau Federation
         -President's previous conversation with Peter M. Flanigan
         -Response to "Salute to Agriculture"

     A.G. Becker Co.[?] in Chicago
          -Treasury funds
               -John N. Mitchell
               -John B. Connally's response
               -David Packard
                     -Response
                     -Schedule
               -Connally
                     -Forthcoming report to Haldeman

     White House News Summary
          -Ronald L. Ziegler
               -Robert Pierpont

[A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under court order from
December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums, et al. v. James M.
Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records Administration produced this
transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]
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[End of transcript]

     Washington, D.C. demonstrations
         -Pierpont's coverage

     Dan Rather
         -Haldeman's and Ehrlichman's meeting, May 6, 1971
               -Purpose                                        Conv. No. 495-9 (cont.)
                     -Richard S. Salant
         -Coverage
               -Pierpont, Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
         -Ehrlichman
         -[Unintelligible name]
         -Lyndon B. Johnson administration
         -Haldeman's and Ehrlichman's meeting

     Unemployment figures
         -Significance

     Connally
         -An appearance [revenue sharing briefing[?]
              -George P. Shultz, Paul W. McCracken
              -Prices

     American politicians
         -War
         -Chattanooga, Tennessee

     President's schedule
          -Policemen event
          -Gateway East, May 10, 1971
                 -John V. Lindsay
                 -Kenneth A. Gibson
                 -Possible Congressional attendees
                      -Jacob K. Javits
                      -Clifford P. Case
                      -Harrison A. Williams, Jr.
                 -Purpose
          -Possible dinner for economists
                 -Timing
          -West Point
                 -Purpose
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    -Wright-Patterson Air Force Base
          -Clarence ("Bud") Brown's conversation with President
    -Indianapolis
          -Time allotted
          -Indianapolis 500 appearance
                -Raymond K. Price, Jr's, John A. Scali's, Charles W. Colson's and Richard
                      A. (“Dick”) Moore's position
                      -Reasons                                     Conv. No. 495-9 (cont.)
                -Compared with a tennis game
                      -Davis Cup
                -Compared with People's Republic of China [PRC] ping-pong team
                      reception
                -Possible fatalities and accidents
          -Time allotted
    -Wright-Patterson Air Force Base
          -Possible speech by President
    -Armed forces events
          -Army
                -Public opinion
          -West Pointers, Marine veterans
          -Possible parade
                -Douglas MacArthur, Dwight D. Eisenhower
                -Date
                -Possible speech by President
          -Purpose
          -Volunteer Army
          -Possible speech by President and parade
                -Writing of speech
                      -Length
                -Indianapolis location

Marshall Green
    -Possible position in Japan
          -Peter G. Peterson's position
    -Henry A. Kissinger
    -Possible position in Japan
          -Type needed for position
          -Bert Cross
          -Type needed for position
    -Relations with Kissinger
          -Washington Special Actions Group [WSAG]
    -Possible position
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          -Type needed
                -Cross
     -Kissinger

Jerry V. Wilson
      -Background
      -Reader's Digest story
           -Background                                         Conv. No. 495-9 (cont.)
           -Education
           -Accomplishments
      -Reader's Digest story
      -Forthcoming meeting with President
           -Ziegler
           -Other attendees
                 -Number
                 -Military
                       -National Guard representatives
           -Photographs
           -Other attendees
                 -John N. Mitchell, Richard G. Kleindienst
                 -Mayor Walter E. Washington
                 -Military
      -Responsibility
      -Meeting with President
           -Date
           -Number of attendees
                 -Photo
                 -Military

President's schedule
     -Financial structure commission, meetings with governors
            -Photos
                  -Press
                  -Use
                  -Purpose
                        -Connally
     -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew's May 11, 1971 briefing on domestic programs
            -Attendees
            -President's role
            -Meetings with Congressmen
            -President's role
                  -East Room
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                -Length
                -Purpose
                -Benefits

Congressional relations
    -Republican leaders
    -Republican National Committee
    -White House                                            Conv. No. 495-9 (cont.)
    -Funds

Labor
     -Victor Riesel's column
     -George Meany
           -News Summary
           -Arthur F. Burns
           -Meany's statements regarding President
           -President's handling of building trades issue
           -A 1972 purge
     -Colson
     -Shultz
           -Meany
     -Democratic candidates' statements on Vietnam war
     -President's foreign policy

Supersonic Transport [SST]
     -President's need for support
     -William M. Magruder
           -Work with Gerald R. Ford
     -Edward P. Boland
     -Upcoming vote
           -Ford
           -Date certain
           -Fiscal Year 1971 appropriations bill
           -Date certain
                 -Democratic Caucus
                 -Ford, Leslie C. Arends
     -Kissinger
     -Upcoming vote
           -Date certain
           -President's role

Kissinger
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     Haig
            -Meeting with Haldeman
            -Perceptions

     PRC initiative

                                                                    Conv. No. 495-9 (cont.)
Ziegler entered at 11:28 am

     Unemployment figures
         -Connally's position
         -Blacks
         -Ziegler's forthcoming statement
              -President's previous statement
         -Press handling
         -Connally's May 6, 1971 press conference
              -Compared with McCracken and Shultz
              -Questions
              -Food prices
                     -Farmers
              -Lessons for White House staff

Ziegler left at 11:32 am

     [Arnold] Eric Sevareid's May 6, 1971 commentary
          -Significance
          -Scali's possible call

     "Salute to Agriculture"
          -White House staff attendance at Agriculture Department
                -Ziegler, Haldeman, John C. Whitaker
          -President's speech
                -News value
          -White House staff
                -Scali, Moore
          -President's speech
                -War and peace
                -News value
                -Coverage
          -White House staff
                -Whitaker
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                    -Productivity figures
        -President's speech
              -Cameras
              -Contribution of farmers to peace
              -White House staff use
                    -Whitaker
                    -Haldeman
                    -Moore                                         Conv. No. 495-9 (cont.)
                    -Scali
              -Work by staff
                    -Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin quotes
              -Role of farmer
              -Need for relation to wider context
                    -Clifford M. Hardin

Press
        -Sevareid
        -News Summary

Washington, D.C. demonstrations
    -President's position
    -Public response
    -Pierpoint
    -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
    -Barry M. Goldwater
          -Trip to Florida
    -Edith Green
          -Trip to Puerto Rico
    -Wilson
          -President's position
          -Possible appearance on a Sunday television show
                -Ziegler
          -Meeting with President
                -Photographs
    -Another meeting with President
          -Battalion commander
          -Mayor's staff
    -Mayor Washington
          -Role
          -Possible meeting with President
          -Role
          -Possible meeting with President
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        -Possible meeting between President and battalion commanders
             -Location, format
             -Ziegler

Press
        -Response to Cabinet Room meetings
             -White House handling
                  -Photographs of meetings                        Conv. No. 495-9 (cont.)
             -Washington Post

"Salute to Agriculture"
     -Effect
           -Midwest farm areas
           -President's speech

[Unintelligible]

President’s schedule
     -Alexander P. Butterfield
     -Haldeman

Public relations
     -John D. Ehrlichman
     -Dwight D. Eisenhower administration
            -Cabinet support
            -Eisenhower
     -Mitchell
     -Maurice H. Stans
     -Elliot L. Richardson
     -Other Cabinet members
     -Richardson
     -Connally
     -David M. Kennedy
     -Robert P. Mayo
     -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
     -Shultz
     -Connally’s effect on others
     -Daniel Patrick Moynihan
     -John A. Volpe
            -Camp David
     -Connally
            -Statements regarding administration
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                      -Response
          -Cabinet
          -Connally
          -Agnew
               -Statements
                     -Press

     "Salute to Agriculture"                                       Conv. No. 495-9 (cont.)
          -Farmers' response
                -President's speech
                -Connally's speech
                -Ford's speech
                -[Unintelligible name]
                -Connally's speech

     Connally's position on President's policies

     Cancer program
         -President's memo
         -President's plan
               -Responsibility
                     -President
                     -Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW]
                     -Colson
                     -Kenneth R. Cole
                     -National Institutes of Health [NIH]
               -Kickoff reception
                     -Fundraising
                           -Schoolchildren
               -Cole

Haldeman left at 11:45 am.